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    Posted: 04 Apr 08 at 7:28pm
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Originally posted by MpHarris


On another note, how does a home build wetsuit work?



 


Just about still on topic I guess, but I made myself one of those in the
early 70s I think it must have been?


Panels are cut out using a template, then butted together and glued,
the tapes are then added to the outside, again glued on over the
joints.


Problem was if you got glue onto the lining, when it dried hard it
would rub on your skin, had never hear of a rash vest then!!!


I know I stitched mine as well as glued, this made a big difference and
it lasted ages. Kits were quite cheap I remember, certainly a lot cheaper
than the Javlin wetsuits.....



I think this remains true to the spirit of the thread.

I remember kit wetsuits well. Wetsuits used to be an expensive luxury so
making up your own was a useful way into wetsuit ownership. Even once
you'd made it, you were forever having to reglue the taped seams.

Young people these days don't know they're born...
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Aquaquipment home-build wetsuits - not very stretchy, but steamer-style sealed seams which was warmer than the open-stitch style suits that came later.
Here's another pic of that dinghy, with both crew wearing motorcycling wind/waterproof all-in-one suits to hide the yellow stripy wetsuits!

And 30 yrs on - we're still at it ( if you know what I mean )

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going back to that HUGE KITE, how big is it, must have been a pain to sheet in as well
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the big kite was my dad in 1970something. apparently it came off a 5.5 or 30square, cant remember. lot of sail for a 12 even by todays standards
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The big kite on a small boat does not pull any harder than a small one on the same boat. Its about the boat weight not the sail area.

Our big 12 kite came from a 5.5. It was over 30ft on the luffs and about 28ft on the foot from memory. The mast was 24ft from the keel, so we had to keep it full while dropping it or we would pit the bowsprit, bow and fin right through it, not fast. The pole had a 4ft extension on the normal 15ft length and had to be pulled apart for storage at the same time.

We bought it cheap second hand to try and match a big one which Woody had at the time, known as "Corners". Ours became known as " Aunty Jack" after an Aus TV character who threatened to " rip your bloody arms off", but as I said above it did not really. Some people thought it looked like a big arse.

But it was not a fast sail, it was so full it would collapse simultaniously on the luff and the leach.

The boat was also a lot different, about half the depth of present 12s. There are other stories which go with that.

Ah, nostalgia is not what it used to be!

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Originally posted by Skiffybob

What a great thread! We'll have to keep this one going.

Here's a historical picture for you. It's Bruce Farr winning the 12ft Skiff Interdominions in 1972.

Not right,

This is Ian Murry wining the Interdominions, Next year he started the "Colour 7" campaign.
12footers. The Only Way to FLY

Remember Professionals built the titanic, Amateurs built the ark.
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Originally posted by a_stevo

The big kite on a small boat does not pull any harder than a small one on the same boat. Its about the boat weight not the sail area.

Phil, if the big kite is pulling the small boat along faster it surely must be pulling harder than a small one would - where else has the extra force to make the boat sail faster come from? But agreed not nearly as hard as if it were pulling 20 tons of leadmine along...

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And if the big kite is pulling the small boat along no faster than a smaller then it will be pulling even harder still (cf. the 20 tons of leadmine...).

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Originally posted by MpHarris

wouldn't have thought that hornets have changed too much in the last 30 odd years, not to ruin the nostalga to much

A 1960s and a 2008 Hornet. The hull shape is unchanged except for tweeking of the tolerances. The deck layout is unrestricted.

Still looking good.
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Ah, so you're that Strangler...

Derek Clark tried the foredeckless spaceframe route in the early 80s IIRC but it didn't catch on.  The I14s have gone the other way, in the 80s they were all open but now they all have foredecks.  Plus ca change!

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