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    Posted: 04 Oct 20 at 6:52pm
I guess the market for LPE probably depends on how much centres expect to sell their boats on for. They usually move them on regularly and they get tarted up and sold on as nearly new boats. If the discount from lpe compensates for the loss of sell on they'll keep buying.

Knock on impact may be that the supply of nearly new ILCA tightens up a bit.
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Originally posted by 423zero

Can't see ILCA outselling Laser, nearly £3,000 dearer.
On the one hand that feels like a lot of difference, but one could also ask why LPE weren't selling new Lasers for £3.5k before the ILCA rocked up ?   Feels a bit like Mr R could be trying to stop the ILCA in its tracks by some classic anti-competitive discounting. 
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Can't see ILCA outselling Laser, nearly £3,000 dearer.
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Originally posted by Grumpycat


I could be wrong , I often am but I have seen no evidence that the radial sails and carbonish top masts make a noticeable difference to laser/ILCA boat speed . 

durability  in both cases  ali topmasts  bent   easily  and the  cross  cut full sail was made of bog paper


Both these things should lead to an increase in average boat speed over a number of years as fewer bent topmast and more longer lasting sails are used in club handicap racing. I suspect there are bigger variables, though, with weather and crew skill.
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Originally posted by Grumpycat

I could be wrong , I often am but I have seen no evidence that the radial sails and carbonish top masts make a noticeable difference to laser/ILCA boat speed . 


durability  in both cases  ali topmasts  bent   easily  and the  cross  cut full sail was made of bog paper

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Wonder which one will get the experimental number? One of them is a new boat.
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Originally posted by Rupert

turning someone away because they have the "wrong" Laser.

If the event is for boats of the International Laser Class, then they have little choice. And if a competitor chose to protest a boat for not being 'legal' then they would win the protest and it would be a very short hearing.
Its been the case for many years that if you turn up at a UKLA supported open with a replica sail you will be turned away*, no matter how faithful a replica it is. What on earth makes you think the situation would or even should be any different with replica hulls?

*or possibly loaned a legal sail - at my club we tried to do this.


The Laser circuit is another matter entirely, and I'd expect at National level for this to be policed, just as it would be for any other class with licenced builders. I'm more thinking of clubs where replica sails will be discouraged, at least at the top end of the fleet. I wonder how many, if a member turned up with a brand new Laser, would be told, sorry, you can't race that here against our ILCA fleet. Most (all?) of which would be LPE Lasers.
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We had an Ovi ILCA appear at our club yesterday. The hull-deck join seemed a bit more substantial and is properly gel-coated over for a seemless look n feel. And its just white, not that fugly ice-blue white LP were using. Otherwise, seemed just as you’d expect and certainly was not discernibly faster than its owners previous boat
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Paramedic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Oct 20 at 8:23am
you only need someone to think they're better and they become "must have" unfortunately.
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That's certainly the declared intention. As to whether it has succeeded, well that would take a carefully structured trial.
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