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sargesail ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1459 |
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Not sure if you were trying to support the point I was making or not....? Did you mean it to point to the Y&Y thread? Or something else? But in any case that is a 12 year old thread.....which has one reference to a radio programme with an RYA employee or volunteer stating that sailing is seeing reduced numbers but power boating is on the up - wonder what fuel costs did to that? And then a reference to a Probono Mckinsey report which was once on the RYA website, but is no more.... The author of SNAKES must be lurking: show us the evidence for your assertions!
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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Nice post Peaky +1
Mess about in boats and out, as much fun to be had falling in. plenty of tech and faffing. good group of motivated people on the whole. |
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Actually, I am sure sailing will continue to thrive, because there is nothing else like it. No other sport/leisure activity offers the same mix of attractions.
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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I live in a city with ‘Boris Bikes’- they’re bloody brilliant. Combined with good public transport infrastructure, taxi apps and the occasional car rental, we don’t actually own a car there anymore- it does mean my sailing there is now a fixed location; but it’s a 25 minute cycle through a park, so I’m not really sure I could be arsed to load a car up to go somewhere else anyway.
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zippyRN ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 437 |
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exactly ... motor insurance premiums for young , inexperienced rivers are ludicrous ... so more and people do wait and if they stay in the TfL bubble or one of the cities ina PTE area there;s less and less need ... meanwhile in the wretched provinces where public transport funding is being spunked on vanity projects ( Lincoln's Boris bikes anyone ? hugely biased placement of docking stations ) |
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zippyRN ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 437 |
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A lto of those knocking the 'RYA approach' knock it based on a presumption that level 1 and 2 will be taught is poorly equipped and spec'ed lower performance boats and/or in Simplified rig WayBarges or BoSwines ... 25 years ago that might have been the case , but also by then sailing schools were also learning that throwing kids and teens out on the water in Toppers and the like also worked pretty damn well at L1/2 ... |
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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It seems lots of traditional sports activities are allegedly in decline, Golf clubs casting about for members where once there were waiting lists Tennis Clubs, Squash clubs all the activities our generation grew up with seem to be struggling as latter day snowflakes look elsewhere for their bite sized instant gratification.
Dinghy sailing in my world and sphere of influence hasn't declined but then the sports we moved from has (windsurfing), the world is fluid, so the watch word is continue promotion of the activity you love and endeavour to enthuse others. Which is why some of us are so passionate about overcoming those negative elements that reduce the pleasure of the activity not only for ourselves but those that would join us. We may be doing ok in the couple of small clubs I belong to, but the loss of Bewl casts a long shadow in our area, that was a big club to just disappear and not enough was done to fight for it in my view. We have lost the RYA many of us knew of old, the avuncular bunch of volunteer committee enthusiasts, the Jenny Currys, the Edmund Whelands that would rush to our aid are gone and replaced with a PC corporation more akin to a quasi Government department bent on burying us with bureaucracy, replacing us with 'professional' schools to provide jobs for the output from their commercial school 'graduate' programmes, than assisting amateurs promote their sport via their local club. All we can do is keep on carrying on and hope the next generation do pick up the reigns even if in doing so they do things differently and fill the beach with bikes and SUPS as they have done at our place, but better that than the place closed, ripped down and another block of luxury flats going up to fill the local councils coffers. |
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maxibuddah ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1760 |
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As for the rya training, nearly all adults that come to our club wasn't official training. The days of just getting something and jumping in it and finding out for yourself are gone it would seem.
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maxibuddah ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1760 |
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They probably only feel there is no need for a car if they live in a big town or city with good infrastructure meaning they don't have to pay 10 times the value of the car in insurance premiums. I would imagine those premiums are the single biggest turn off from owning a car rather than directly from a society driven change. Society is changing because of it. It will though have a knock on to any activity that is not local
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NickM99 ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 26 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 145 |
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Times article today (p9) suggesting significant fall off in numbers of young people feeling the need to get a licence to drive or own a car. "It is possible that the changes in young people's travelling behaviour described are the first phase of a societal change that will continue through generations.." If that means people will increasingly look for activities that do not need a car, that would be a cause for concern.
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