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Duncan Adam ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 01 Aug 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 4 |
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Zimmer turbo (Starboard iSonic 105)
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ssailor ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 11 Oct 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 430 |
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Im simply commenting on the Fanatic name...Skate -> a type of fish, or a different sport!
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Any one in need of quality carbon fibre work (tillers etc) at decent prices!
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This is/was a polite forum
That is until we turned up and lowered the tone. Do we really need to sink to the depths using words Like Fanatic, Skate, Tushingham & Starboard. It was nice here in this parallel universe. Where the worse thing you can be is Cherub or RS Feva. Then you embarrassing numpties turn up Must be the equivalent of a visitation from the yngling class. |
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Duncan Adam ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 01 Aug 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 4 |
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Is this your retirement home Grumpf?
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49erGBR735HSC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
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Anyway isn't the sensible and most logical thing to do is to crew for someone with a High Performance Boat to learn the ropes and then move back to the MPS when you have built your confidence. Would save yourself a lot of hassle and at least £4000 if you are currently planning to buy a 500 and in the process you'd be picking up skills naturally from someone more experienced instead of struggling to piece everything together by yourself. Boats like the MPS need to be tuned well appropriately to the conditions and if you don't do this, they do handle like dogs, it's not a design flaw, it's optimising the boat to go fast in all conditions. To put it simply, when it rains, you don't change the tyres on say a Ford Escort to deal with the conditions as the design and performance of the car does not demand it but the Formula 1 racing Teams do put wet tyres on their cars becuase otherwise they wouldn't perform.......The MPS like the F1 car has to be set up for the conditions appropriately unlike simpler designs. Suprises me you bought an MPS if you don't think cats are too tactical because in almost most circumstances, the tactics used on cats go really well on skiffs due to the relative high speeds involved with the boats. You lose out on skiffs by tacking on shifts very much like cats, noticed it on the race-course first hand and its pretty well documented in quite a few publications, probably best explained in High Performance Sailing by Frank Bethwaite. |
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stuarthop ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 22 Dec 04 Location: Nottingham Online Status: Offline Posts: 1040 |
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have only glanced through this thread... but please tell me grumpf what is wrong with cherubs??? and i'll get the whole cherub crew on here to give you a lesson in develpomment classes if its not a good reason!
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Lucy Lee ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 276 |
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Please, please please please, please don't encourage this man to buy a cherub. All our modern hulled boats are hand-crafted, highly desirable works of high-tec engineering. It would be a travesty to sail one off a shingle beach with a shore dump. I know that we are a development class and that he could fit a centerboard within the rules, and sail it twin or single wire, with whatever soft or battened sail plan he wanted, and that it would be light enough to carry up the beach without a trolley but I fear that even the kevlar boats might not cope in the conditions he describes. I can't think of a boat that fit's his wish list, but I would advise a cherub |
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Fly Cherub!
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A cherub may well be the answer aslong as grahamf doesnt mind a bit of boat work, its certainly a boat that can be be built to personal specifications.
However there is a point highlighted here that there really arnt any assymetric boats with centreboards. Im not suggesting the boat designers/builders start throwing out even more designs to dilute the system but if i had a centreboard rather thana daggerboard on my 600 there would certainly be a few more events on the calender that i would attend! The round sheppey race for one! I'd love to do the sheppey race but i dont fancy hitting a secret shallow, putting a crack in my centre case and leaking for the rest of the way round untill my boat is barely above water by the finish (assuming i finish at all!!). Doug |
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Ladies.
There is not a snowballs chance in hell I'd go near anything called Cherub. It could be an inter stellar time machine it wouldn't interest me and if you dont get why not then that's what separates Cherub sailors from normal folk. Well maybe not normal but people like me. We dont do stupid sounding anything. If its so radical and you can alter it to suit your preferences Change its bloody name. Maybe more than three of you would sail it. I couldn't seriously tell anyone I sailed a cherub, not from my background bloody hell its bad enough I'm posting on a dinghy forum if they found out I sailed something called cherub I'd be finished. Get some help or change its name then talk to me. |
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Lucy Lee ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 276 |
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An excellent reason to keep the name!
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Fly Cherub!
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