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    Posted: 26 Apr 22 at 8:55am
50% of the rescues I’ve done in recent years are people able to right but not get back in Solos. Never an issue with a Laser
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Tink. That's a big tick for the Laser, especially at sea. Absolutely no worries about sorting it out if you put it in (barring gear breakage of course but that applies to everything). 
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Originally posted by tink

50% of the rescues I’ve done in recent years are people able to right but not get back in Solos. Never an issue with a Laser

What is it with Solo sailors and all the doggy-paddling about when they capsize. Why are they in the water in the first place? You're supposed to be on it, not in it.
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In a Laser, when you capsize in most cases you can swivel over the gunwale onto the centreboard, the boat is light and it pops up easily ... I practiced this extensively in my formative years.

In the Solo, the cockpit geometry does not encourage climbing over the gunwale, any attempt to find a foot step causes the Solo to turtle and in any case a Solo comes up dry if you "unweight it" and swim around.  

I should add that the much denigrated coffee table handles come into their own when trying to pull yourself back in after a capsize.

Next problem is that the centreboard is often just out of reach from the water ... righting lines or a buoyancy aid that doesn't ride up helps.

I suspect that the Laser and the Solo are an equal pain in the a**e in the event of a capsize to windward, when the helm may end up being a spectator to their boat blowing down wind without them.

As Fab100 points out, the capsize is best avoided in the first place, and for some a Solo is a brilliantly stable platform in a blow.


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All dinghies will fall over at some point. In my view good ergonomics in recovery phase is an as important part of design as comfort during sailing phase. Yes you should spend more time sailing than recovering but it's at recovering time when the chickens come home to roost.

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Originally posted by davidyacht

In a Laser, when you capsize in most cases you can swivel over the gunwale onto the centreboard, the boat is light and it pops up easily ... I practiced this extensively in my formative years.

In the Solo, the cockpit geometry does not encourage climbing over the gunwale, any attempt to find a foot step causes the Solo to turtle and in any case a Solo comes up dry if you "unweight it" and swim around.  

I should add that the much denigrated coffee table handles come into their own when trying to pull yourself back in after a capsize.

Next problem is that the centreboard is often just out of reach from the water ... righting lines or a buoyancy aid that doesn't ride up helps.

I suspect that the Laser and the Solo are an equal pain in the a**e in the event of a capsize to windward, when the helm may end up being a spectator to their boat blowing down wind without them.

As Fab100 points out, the capsize is best avoided in the first place, and for some a Solo is a brilliantly stable platform in a blow.



You're not selling So-Slos to me David. Too much buoyancy, so you can't reach the plate if in the water. Too little because it comes up full of water if you are on the plate. Worst of all worlds.
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How many times a season does the average Solo sailor capsize?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote fab100 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Apr 22 at 10:54am
Originally posted by eric_c

How many times a season does the average Solo sailor capsize?

Some of the guys our Pond  - lots
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Apr 22 at 12:01pm
The Sprint (minisail) mk2, would almost right itself, one finger on the end of the centre board (yes a centre board). No buoyancy in the floor at the stern, you could almost swim aboard, easiest dinghy ever.    


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Post Options Post Options   Quote maxibuddah Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Apr 22 at 12:59pm
We had a very good solo sailor at out club who rarely capsized, but when he did that was race over, it just took long to get back upright. Laser....capsize many times but it was nearly always quick and you got on with enjoying the race again.
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