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HannahJ ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Jul 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 861 |
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yer we didn't hear any hoots, couldn't see any flags either. And the race officer had a horrible job, they had to spin the course round at one point because the wind swung so much... Yes, the tides were horrible, I will always carry a paddle when on the sea!
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MIRROR 64799 "Dolphin"
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist hopes it will change; the realist adjusts the sail |
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Fans1024 ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Nov 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 177 |
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TT, you were on Fistral, aka home of tourists and chavs. No one in their right mind actually goes there for watersports during the summer. If you had gone a couple of miles down the coast, there is this beauitful beach, about 2 miles long and all the tourists are barriered into a tiny space. Tonnes of surfing space... or windsurfing.
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scullyman ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 23 May 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 51 |
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James, totally entertaining thread on boards! Sorry you had a rough time in the motherland... |
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mike ellis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339 |
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you don't need a paddle for sea sailing, just a bigger sail
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
Also International 14, 1318 |
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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Check your facts, Redback. The V's at Wilsonian currently sail off a PN 22 points lower than a Laser 3000, as recommended by the CA. According to my calcs, a trapeze plus the lighter crew it enables would permit the 59er to sail off a PN 30-odd points lower than in fat-boy hiking mode. I think the latter mode is not quite up to the 905 rating it currently has, but the real problem for the fatties for whom the boat was originally intended, is that the PN might come down if whippets start sailing the boat with a wire. The trap won't be as much use to the heavier crews. |
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redback ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Tunbridge Wells Online Status: Offline Posts: 1502 |
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Whoops, facts wrong, very good to see the handicap for the V3000 is adjusted - who knows what will be right, but time will tell. The boat is a lot faster than a L3000. How do you think it compares with a 29er? I'm in agreement, the PY of 905 is probably hard on the 59er - its not that fast on the sort of courses we sail on the Medway but it might be different on a true windward/leeward course. Its going to be a great shame for the class if somebody doesn't enforce the no trapeze design since it will then become a different sort of boat for a different type of sailor and clash with the RS500, Laser4000, Osprey, Javelin, ISO and 5o5. In other words there are plenty of single trapeze boats with that sort of performance. It is also a little under canvassed for a trapeze boat when in 2 sail mode. The hull shape is not optimum for a trapeze boat either. |
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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Stop press: Ovington are now suggesting: "920 for 59er Non Trapeze with class rule 150kg crew weight ( if crew is sub 150kg they must have 75% of the difference in correctors). 887 for 59er with trapeze and no min crew weight." Seems fair to me. One for trhe next Sailing Committee... The 29er makes huge sacrifices of stability with a narrow waterline beam, so in general it's always going to have the legs on the stable 3k in displacement conditions. It's also got bigger sails, esp. kite. But I have noticed that on flat water we can sometimes plane earlier than them (e.g. last Sunday); unfortunately that happens less than 5% of the time we're sailing. Most of the time on the water we're beating and/or in displacement mode, where the 29er has the edge. |
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mike ellis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339 |
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well so far this week ive been out windsurfing monday evening and this evening, not bad seeing as im back at college. i will hopefull get another session in tomorrow too if the wind stays up.
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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redback ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Tunbridge Wells Online Status: Offline Posts: 1502 |
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Medway quite windy and certainly grey and cold. Not one of our best days - we swam a lot - we just weren't together. I suspect we were a bit aprehensive - the 4000 can't be sailed tentatively and the courses were such that we could almost lay the downwind marks by going deep. Coversely by going high we'd have to gybe a lot due to the shallows. So we chose the deep option and often came into a gybe a bit slow. A recent tweak of the settings gave us good upwind speed although losing it downwind meant we didn't have a benchmark for our upwind performance. We hadn't intended to sail as we were both off on trips - we didn't know we'd both be in Prague and so you can imagine our surprise when we bumped into each other. Then realising we'd both be back before Sunday we decided to race - but I guess we were still hung over! |
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G.R.F. ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 10 Aug 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 4028 |
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At long last the summer arrived at Hythe, sunny Easterly force 3 freshening
to four and a nice long beat.. We had a blinding race, but it turned out to be a bit long for the slow fleet so we've got to think about what to do in future. Nothings going to seem that long a race to us now after that Sheppey event, but they finished us at 51. 23 and we always feel a bit robbed when we're having fun and don't get the full hour. Nevertehless, a brilliant day, damn I love this sport. |
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