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    Posted: 27 Apr 12 at 2:26pm
Originally posted by robinft

Is there an entry point for air at the front end of the tunnel? I know that it's open at the aft end but I do wonder if there may be a slowing suction effect nonetheless.

The Tunnel is open all along its top edge where the centreboard retracts, no suction, the only issue is with the huge wetted area in low wind, pretty standard for wide boards and not unexpected here.

It could have been alleviated and if I ever get the taxman off my back will be in son of V-twin the lake monster, by making the hulls rounded, but for now, I still need to continue finding fault with this first attempt, and I need to find another boat builder with a sense of humour adventure, the ability to build down to weight, deliver on time and within budget, so mission impossible really.


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Have you thought about doing a self tacking jib with control lines lead out onto the wings so that you can adjust it? this way you would only have to concentrate on the mian.
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Originally posted by Owenfackrell

Have you thought about doing a self tacking jib with control lines lead out onto the wings so that you can adjust it? this way you would only have to concentrate on the mian.

No I hadn't, I've got the downhill er cunnigham out there which provides additional security to keep them in place, I hadn't thought of the jib, which actually makes more sense and why didn't I think of that.. I'm going to go down the boat park right now and fix it.

Thanks Owen.

What I really wanted to achieve and was going about it cack handedly, was the arrangement the swift solo has, but I just can't figure how it's done, pulleys, blocks.. never really been my thing...


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Post Options Post Options   Quote PeterG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Apr 12 at 4:47pm
it makes an excellent swimming platform to dive off, I suspect if ever it happens again this coming summer I shall have young girls swarming to it in their bikinis just to sunbath and enjoy water sport...

Sounds perfect - why would you want to change anything?
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All boats will tip over sooner or later.
Small boats will tip over more frequently than large boats.
Un-ballasted boats will tip over more frequently than ballasted boats.
One of he major innovations of the 1960s was the self rescuing dinghy, which allowed the crew to continue sailing after a capsize.  At that time the hydrostatics of a dinghy when capsized became part of the designers prevue. But it hasn't really been given much attention.
V twin is an example of thinking half way through the problem.
This stuff really isn't rocket surgery.
IF you want the boat not to invert, it has to be stable in the attitude of  rig in the water. Stability requires the center of gravity to be aligned with the center of buoyancy.  In practical term, this requires the rig to float.  Most modern beach cats have sealed masts, which when combined with the over rotating wing mast is buoyant enough to prevent inversion. 
Some of my recent ICs have had sealed masts as a side benefit of  of getting rid of the main halyard, these boats are far less likely to go turtle than ones with big holes in the masthead.
I also designed very neat foam filled square heads for mainsails that may actually be better aerodynamically that a regular pin head but also have enough volume to prevent inversion.
Just mentioning it.
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Has the V Twin been rebranded V2?
 
Seems obvious if you design a very stable craft when sailing it will also be very stabe upside down representing a major problem. Cat sailors have been aware of this for some time ...
 
Why not just develop your motor skills a bit such that you can cope with a less stable craft which may be more prone to capsize but at least you can self rescue.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Xpletive Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 12 at 10:00pm
Originally posted by 2547

Has the V Twin been rebranded V2?
 
Seems obvious if you design a very stable craft when sailing it will also be very stabe upside down representing a major problem. Cat sailors have been aware of this for some time ...
 
Why not just develop your motor skills a bit such that you can cope with a less stable craft which may be more prone to capsize but at least you can self rescue.
 
Quite! Trouble is, you're talking to a man who found sailing a deck chair too exhausting...and had to dump the Blaze....
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do the swift solo thing! i was going to do it for the new cherub as an easily changable system to sail it singlehanded but ran out of money as you need a whole other boom to make it work, its really not all that complex though

short term though, leading the jibsheets to racks a la 18ft skiffs is the way to go
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Originally posted by 2547

Has the V Twin been rebranded V2?
 
Seems obvious if you design a very stable craft when sailing it will also be very stabe upside down representing a major problem. Cat sailors have been aware of this for some time ...
 
Why not just develop your motor skills a bit such that you can cope with a less stable craft which may be more prone to capsize but at least you can self rescue.
 
 
Quite! Trouble is, you're talking to a man who found sailing a deck chair too exhausting...and had to dump the Blaze....
 
Deck chair LOL
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From Scuttlebutt Europe today - a 90ft V Twin?
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