Cirrus Icon Development

   WE are not going to show everything that could be photographed at this stage anymore than other manufacturers would ! (hence just showing the tooling now and plug shots earlier here).    If everything was shown that could be revealed there would be nothing to 'launch'  that was truly 'new' news in due course.  Icon was always going to be superb and 'just right' does take time - you launch on a tough market with a hastily finished /specified boat at your peril ...

As has been stated several times previously rig development has run over the Summer on a hybrid hull.  We are running a few weeks later than origianlly planned but frankly we are working to our own set deadlines and this does not call for pre-production testing before the end of December anyway.  Given the extensive programme of the last 7 months in the hybrid version this is really just fine tuning now.  With luck we should even have Icon(s) at the Battle of the Classes race in Mid Jan at the end of the London boat show ... they are already entered in case it is the right time !

Giraffe and anyone else interested will be able to try rather than speculate very soon .....  

Mike L.  (aka Cirrus Raceboats) 

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blaze720 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 28 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1635	Post Options Post Reply Quote blaze720 Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Cirrus Icon Development Posted: 27 Nov 10 at 9:26am
	WE are not going to show everything that could be photographed at this stage anymore than other manufacturers would ! (hence just showing the tooling now and plug shots earlier here). If everything was shown that could be revealed there would be nothing to 'launch' that was truly 'new' news in due course. Icon was always going to be superb and 'just right' does take time - you launch on a tough market with a hastily finished /specified boat at your peril ... As has been stated several times previously rig development has run over the Summer on a hybrid hull. We are running a few weeks later than origianlly planned but frankly we are working to our own set deadlines and this does not call for pre-production testing before the end of December anyway. Given the extensive programme of the last 7 months in the hybrid version this is really just fine tuning now. With luck we should even have Icon(s) at the Battle of the Classes race in Mid Jan at the end of the London boat show ... they are already entered in case it is the right time ! Giraffe and anyone else interested will be able to try rather than speculate very soon ..... Mike L. (aka Cirrus Raceboats)

Guests Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Quote Reply Posted: 27 Nov 10 at 8:00am
	Morning Mr Giraffe, The photo's were taken ealier this week and are the most up to date ones I have. its not so easy to see, but these are the first photo's of the mould, the earlier photo's were the plug. In terms of progress, its obviously important to spend time getting the tooling just right. The deck has been made and the hull is underway, so it'll probably be mid December before the first boat hits the water. Good sails will be vital, and sail develop will be as meticulous as the rest of it - there has to date been 3 masts and 3 sets of sails, with input from some of the best sail designers around. Of Cirrus' other classes the Blaze has a North sail of course, whilst the Halo has the choice of North or Hyde. I have no idea whether one has proven faster/better, but it shows that Mike is not wedded to cheap materials and products. Edited by Peaky - 27 Nov 10 at 8:10am

giraffe Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 10 May 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 148	Post Options Post Reply Quote giraffe Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 26 Nov 10 at 11:29pm
	How old are these photos? Six weeks ago you said you would be sailing in six weeks +/- When are you launching? It looks like it is getting cold now. Can you show us some more up to date photos? You really should go with the N12/Albacore/Ent pole system. It also sounds like the jib has a long foot measurement and will really benefit from having a boom so that it does not get too full off wind as if it goes as quick as a 15ft boat should then it will need a flat jib to go with the flat main. I think that getting the sails right will be crucial to boat speed and why getting some input from the major UK sail lofts rather than getting cheap crap sails from the Far East would make the Class very attractive.

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	This one from the Favourite Photo's thread now makes more sense (if you look at the picture on the previous page)! Edited by Peaky - 26 Nov 10 at 10:22pm

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	So shiny it looks like mercury

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Jack Sparrow Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2965	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jack Sparrow Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 10 at 10:45am
	My god!!!! That 3.7 looks harder to sail than a MUSTO SKIFF! Men in the 70's were hard, sadly I was just a teenager.
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Merlinboy Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 03 Jul 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3169	Post Options Post Reply Quote Merlinboy Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 10 at 9:40am
	The k1 has a carbon Jib boom/Self tacking system. With a Jib Kicker if i remember correctly. The one at our club has an elastic system that pulls the boom out to 90deg on a run. It works well.

Merlinboy Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 03 Jul 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3169	Post Options Post Reply Quote Merlinboy Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 10 at 9:34am
	The k1 has a carbon Jib boom/Self tacking system. With a Jib Kicker if i remember correctly. The one at our club has an elastic system that pulls the boom out to 90deg on a run. It works well.

tickler Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 03 Jun 07 Location: Tunstead Milton Online Status: Offline Posts: 895	Post Options Post Reply Quote tickler Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 10 at 9:19am
	Yes that is just what I meant but on that boat how was the jib boom held down? The models had a short mast with a gooseneck and kicker. They also had a "horse" making it just like a self tacking jib.....well it had to be a self tacking jib unless a leprechaun was available. Pre radio control. The kicker controlled the leech when the boom was beyond the horse.