Rs 800

49er is 140 - 160kg.

surely it all depends on induividual circumstances as to whats 'best'.

for cheap boats you can change when/ if you want to surely an old 14 or cherub (depending on your weight) will be perfect.

a b14 will be good if you sail in water too restricted for twin trapezes to be a viable option. 49er's, newer 14's/cherubs etc are for those wanting to go fast and sail competatively.

the 800 i would say is slightly different. apparently easier than other twin wire boats to sail (not race). BUT it has strong fleet racing, long lasting sails, hulls etc which remain cometative. (pick up one suitable for nationals title for £5,000 ). it depends on crew situations, aspirations, money as well as others.

NO CLASS CAN BE 'BETTER' - just more suitable for a particular person.

honestly the competitive range is between 18stone and 24 stone optimum depends on the boat I'll be sailing with around 22-23 stone in the boat this year and hope to get some good results. But i also know of some very quick teams who are close to 20 stone, I'm too lazy for a kg conversion!

And the 800 has crew weight equalisation, I believe? (Though opinions tend to be divided on whether such schemes are a god thing or not...)

Its ok stu you make your point nicely its all down to challenges that you like to undertake.

my view on RS800 vs a B14 differences bag kite system over chute kite, both have advantages and disadvantages.

Rs800 kite hoist no problems with windward hoisting etc b14 more knack to hoisting from the windward side no a biggy though longetivty well bag kite will last longer as it endures less friction than being pulled down a chute.

Twin Wiring over hiking imo near as damnit no difference there'll be lots of confusion to that but in terms of mechanical advantage and righting moment the racks on the B14 are wide so yojur feet actually end up where you would trapeze from and the racks are pretty darn comfy from sailing one. twin wiring yeah its a skill helming from the wire but quite an easy one to pick up and getting good communication and coordination takes time but no matter what double hander you sail you need this,

price wise there both roughly the same new if i had the money i woudl probably own both as there are both great fun.

yes i own a cherub do i need to ram it down everyones throat that i think its  a good boat nope because i know it is and i like sailing it if we all sailed the same thing it would be boring everyone thinks there class is best because if we all look deep down we know its hard to attract new members to a class as the market is very diverse, but my calling names etc does it no good have i sailed a 49er no am i interested well possibly but am not a big fan of EGO's so it kinda puts me off getting one, would i sail a I14 well then yes i probs would but i dont have the cash to fund one, doesnt make these boats any better or worse than another one it just makes them different.