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    Posted: 05 Sep 07 at 11:28am

Clap Clap The voice of reason. Well said, English Dave.

Hopefully, it won't fall on deaf ears. LOL

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Spot on Dave. In all ways. GRF is a ex windsurfing rival of mine and his ability to wind me up no doubt cost me a race or two. It's also one reason why I like him - he's just so good at it and he often 'hits the nail on the head' at the same time!

Back to RS500s I hear that both the first second and third sailors believe that because it was generally light wind, with major shifts and tidal factors, nothing significant was learnt from the weekend regarding fastest rig settings. I guess thats right, but I wonder if from 30 boat entry was there any clear advantage for the lighter crews - or not?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Sep 07 at 11:13am
Sense of humour is such a great test of character...

Probably why this site comes up lacking so much more than proper
adrenaline sport sites

But you would have thought folk who wear yellow wellies, sew beer mats
to their backside and/or sail in a boat called cherub, might at least be
able to spot the funny side of a given remark or post.

Whatever, back to RS500's

Yes is the answer to the question from the cove who wanted to know if
the new block made us faster- absolutely, without question, particularly
when we're riding fakie.. (Er that means on the tack when it doesn't feel
right to those who dont ride boards). In fact come to think about it its
actually on the regular tack, sailing to me is back to front, probably
because of the left handedness.

It's really wiered thinking still further whilst I'm typing, when I was trying
to helm and wire on that Musto, the regular, i.e left foot forward tack was
strongest, but sitting down and just hiking, its the opposite..

Damn that's another conundrum to think about, although I did have one
of those harken auot ratchet block thingies on the Musto, so that might
have made the difference..

So ignoring all that, yes, the RS500 is very crew weight sensitive
particularly in force 2-3, above and below that it doesn't matter as much
except for the obvious need for more weight when its breezy or to
possibly dump down to a smaller main, which we've yet to prove or
disprove.

We have found having a lot of slack on the lower wire shroud things gives
us a bit more depower and doesn't seem to bugger up the light wind
performance, but then how would we know until we can try it against
another identical boat.

A damn shame we couldn't get to the Nationals.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote MpHarris Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Sep 07 at 11:19am

Whats wrong with having a beer mat sewn to the arse of my hi fits and sailing a boat with a heart on the sail?  lol,

I know very little about the 500 have seen one once and it looked an ok boat.  Was just wondering what the rules are with regards to the two sail sizes?  Do you sail of a different handicap in the same way as Laser/Radial?  Or is it just a sort of equalisation thing for heavy weather vs light, fat vs light and can you choose which you sail with?  I seem to remember the Feva has two riggs and they always seem to race with the little ones, could just be me though...

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Well I'm not sure, I did wonder.

I dont even know how it came to pass that there were two sizes of sail.

I put it down to the fact the boat probably wasn't high enough
performance with the standard set, and/or it was aimed at the youth,
parent child market but when commercial reality struck they had to throw
the biggest rags they could on it to take on the likes of 29ers or whatever
else they percieved they were marketing against.

Either way it had nothing to do with my decision, I was just looking for a
modern board with one man sits the other wires and the centreboard
went up inside the hull like the 470 & 505 and it was the only choice.

I certainly didn't consider sailing a heavy washing up bowl around even
though it might on paper have seemed a better choice given the way our
beach trashes hulls.

I also knew, that most folk don't believe or even consider my views on
localised weather patterns, so I'd be able to do a bit of giant killing in it
eventually, once we'd worked out how to keep it from falling over..

Many a National Championship is lost by folk who think they dont
understand the weather
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One thing I have never understood is why in asymmetric dinghies you bear away to depower downwind and with windsurfing it is the opposite way round.

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You can bear further away and oversheet downwind to depower a
windsurfer, and its the same kitesurfing, or it was before the advent of
sheetable kites with bridled leading edges.

But I guess with an assymmetric dinghy with the kite up, luffing or sheeting
out like a windsurfer is not an option, so there is only one choice.
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Originally posted by MpHarris

I seem to remember the Feva has two riggs and they always seem to race with the little ones, could just be me though...

no the feva has a big roachy (its all relative) mainsail which is laminate and a little triangle of dacron that can be put up to save your nice sail from numpties who you might be lending the boat to. noone ever races with the numpty sail.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote MpHarris Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Sep 07 at 7:26pm

Cool, so just to sound even more clueless, whats the difference between the feva and feva XL? is this where i've got the racing with the smaller set from.  Could always be just me for sure but wanted to check.

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