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tink ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Jan 16 Location: North Hants Online Status: Offline Posts: 789 |
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Spot on
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NickA ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 784 |
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Touche. Excellent snarky reply to my snarky comment. :¬) The point of the (also overweight and old-fashioned) Javelin is certainly not winning cups (not in my case anyway), it's that it's fast and hard work and will chuck you in the water if you get it wrong. A couple of three sail planing reaches linked by a well excecuted roll gybe leaves me high on adrenaline for days! Without that thrill, may as well just sit at home and do big fleet tactical racing on SailX. I'm sure there are foiling moth and 49er sailers who feel the same way about Javelins!!
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ian.r.mcdonald ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 24 Feb 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 440 |
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I wonder how much this change has actually come from ( some of) the builders.
The current Solo is very well built and lasts forever ( nearly) Is a change of design the only way to increase the sale of new boats? |
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davidyacht ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1345 |
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I think that the coffee table and transom construction are something that the builders recognize to be areas where cost can be taken out of the boat. However the requirement for new tooling will be a bitter pill to swallow for the two or three smaller builders. And not good for the two main builders while the NSCA procrastinates.
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Happily living in the past
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Actually its all a plot of the lizard people...
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RTFM ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 23 Nov 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 41 |
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Start a new NSCA called the 'Real' or 'Classic' Solo CA, (CSCA) following the same/current Solo class rules, but add in that no hull/rig rules can be changed within x years, get it recognised by the RYA and we are good to go....
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ColPrice2002 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 25 Nov 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 222 |
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The transom change would make the rudder/tiller easier to fit when rigging... At present, I have to feed the extension through the transom, then the tiller, followed by fitting the stock onto the pintle/gudgeon, then the retaining clip.
Dropping the rudder stock onto the pintle/gudgeon is much simpler, but this is not a reason to buy from one builder compared to another. Similarly, the capping strip change would save a few shin bruises, but isn't sufficient to prefer one builder over another. Some of the proposals are basically performance neutral, but others would affect the boat speed. Whether that's acceptable to the class membership - as opposed to the members at the AGM is a good question. Colin |
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ian.r.mcdonald ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 24 Feb 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 440 |
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If a competent experienced sailor was asked to find ten things to make the Solo easier and possibly faster to sail, they could all do it and probably agree on which things to change.
Surely that is not the point? There are 1000s of this one design racers and if you are a full on circuit sailor or a club sailor on a small tree lined pond, the rules are still the same. Rudder changes? Fixed lightweight rudders next? Take the centreboard capping off? Easier to tack and we are then going to pretend that the one design ethos is maintained against the original Holt design? |
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tink ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Jan 16 Location: North Hants Online Status: Offline Posts: 789 |
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Spot on, Nothing that the Solo or any other originally wood one design can do to will bring it close to a design today so keep to the spirit of the original and use corrects to keep older boats competitive as they gain a few pounds.
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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In my experience the current generation of FRP boats are considerably quicker than the more traditional boats. Combine that with a sail development and the 'optimised' hulls means the boat is a fair bit quicker that the PY would suggest.
The suggested changes my exacerbate that a little more. However with so many older boats still racing at club level week in, week out the PY wont catch up. The Fireball PY is only just starting to level out following the 'wide bow' revolution nearly 20 years ago. |
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