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    Posted: 27 Mar 18 at 4:37pm
Originally posted by mozzy

[---]The other question is what would you replace the Finn with?




Gender neutral kite racing

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Remind me, how many times have the Chinese or Japanese medalled in a Finn?
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Which is why I’ve suggested that to gain gender neutrality the 470 should be mixed, and a women’s lightweight single-handed should be introduced, in addition to what we currently have.

China and Japan are going great guns developing their sailing programmes, most notably in windsurfing, Laser Rad and 470s - it’s only a matter of time....
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Additionally, I’ve no axe to grind when it comes to Kite-surfing, but does the sport of racing them even exist outside of of the Pro circuit? As I understand it, there’s not that many sites on the coast where you can safely learn to do thiis, and I’m not aware of any inland lakes where you can do it (happy to be corrected). Are there any racing clubs? I’m looking forward to having a go at this, but if someone like me is not aware of racing opportunities, then how can it be ready for the Games?
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Originally posted by getafix

 
As I wrote before. No idea why a class as prestigious and with such great history (freestanding of the Olypmics) as the Finn, puts soooool much emphasis on being part of it. 

Because they know what happens to classes when they lose the Olympic slot, name me one example of a class that has thrived following deselection?


Star


The Europe - admittedly not in the UK where it has never been a big class, even when part of the Olympics, but have a look at International numbers and you'll see that it's huge!

http://dokumenter.asf.no/resultater/NOV/2015/WC_Europe_2015.htm
46 at a European worlds ... 

http://www.costabrava-europeworlds17.com/en/default/races/race-resultsall
54 in Spain

Pretty small beer ... similarly the Firefly is nothing outside the UK where we get 31 at last years nationals ...

Star has a benefactor that runs a few high profile events for a few pros but otherwise is dead ...

No-one survives the post Olympic slot come down ...

Fake news I am afraid ...

Dragon?

One exception doesn't make it fake news ... and the Dragon was dropped in 1972; things were different back then ... 
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Originally posted by Bootscooter

Additionally, I’ve no axe to grind when it comes to Kite-surfing, but does the sport of racing them even exist outside of of the Pro circuit? As I understand it, there’s not that many sites on the coast where you can safely learn to do thiis, and I’m not aware of any inland lakes where you can do it (happy to be corrected). Are there any racing clubs? I’m looking forward to having a go at this, but if someone like me is not aware of racing opportunities, then how can it be ready for the Games?


Kind of difficult for them to race when they're denied access to the principal racing waters, Like every inland lake, reservoir or sailing club in the country.

But I'll say this, I've seen more Kites racing in my travels than ever I've seen a Finn in action, save the one time at that Forum Open meeting 5 years ago.

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Women are allowed to race at the international kiting events. They just don't seem to want to.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Mar 18 at 6:33pm
This was taken back in 2005, Kitercross, beat up wind, then jump obstacles on the downwind leg, no holds barred, just the sort of televisual crap they like.



Didn't see any Finns out there either, but then it was 5 years into the twenty-first century..

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Originally posted by GarethT

Women are allowed to race at the international kiting events. They just don't seem to want to.
I think Steph Bridges might give you an argument on that score.

What's the name of our best female Finn Sailor and has she won many world championships like Steph?

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They had 6 women enter at their worlds last year (Steph was 4th).

Not quite got the momentum to justify kicking out an established class just yet.
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