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    Posted: 08 Sep 16 at 7:45am
Just do match racing. Everyone understands that Nicola the boxer or Andy Murray had to win several rounds to reach the final of their events. Combine that with a winner takes all long distance race and scrap the rest.
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Just film it using drones, headcams and ribs. Then edit it down to a five minute film cutting out the boring bits. No one wants to watch boats drifting down wind....not even us sitting in them. Informed commentary is important as well there is no point in non expert waffle. I remember that 55 years ago sailing A Class model boats, the big ones, in the Nationals at Fleetwood there was a man with a Tannoy giving a running commentary from the bus shelter. There was quite a crowd sitting on the grass bank watching and listening......unless they were waiting for a bus of course?
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Originally posted by Rupert

Just do match racing. Everyone understands that Nicola the boxer or Andy Murray had to win several rounds to reach the final of their events. Combine that with a winner takes all long distance race and scrap the rest.

The match racing at Weymouth in 2012 was boring, takes too long and once one boat has a decent lead (or one of the helms fall out) it's race over.

Team racing is the way forward, plenty of boat on boat action.

It's like the sprint at the velodrome, but you have three on each team!

Also a team racing heat is what 10 mins max?
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I love watching team racing, but it isn't that simple to understand, if we are really going lowest common denominator. 10 minute match races, one on one, changing the rules so there is no interaction before the start, to prevent a non race.

Out of the blocks on the gun, then a boat on boat battle upwind and down to a finish. If you don't want a situation where 4 years work is gone in 10 minutes (though in the 100m it will be gone in about 10.5 seconds) then run a league or the cycling second chance idea. Do it in Lasers and Radials. Do the long distance race in mixed cats.

Or, do mixed doubles team racing in Radials, last boat loses.
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Do a sprint idea like the 300's. Pairs of boats sailing close on two different sets of buoys downwind. Gybing every few seconds
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I love watching team racing, but it isn't that simple to understand, if we are really going lowest common denominator. 10 minute match races, one on one, changing the rules so there is no interaction before the start, to prevent a non race. 

I agree. Team racing is much more interesting for those in the know. I loved it when I did it - too many decades ago - but if you are trying to involve non sailors it's far too difficult to understand. There's a lot to be said for boat on boat for that. I certainly wouldn't recommend it as the only way to run Olympic racing, but as a component - yes.
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Here's a little challenge. Worldwide spread is a big thing for the IOC.
The Olympic continents are Africa, Americas, Asia, Europe and Oceania. Sailing had medallists from 4 continents and 17 countries. List 12 countries and 4 continents that, right now, could feasibly put together a decent team racing team. List team racing worlds results to justify your assertion.

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But Jim, as an Olympic sport, countries would soon get up to speed, hiring expert coaches and travelling to events, just as they do now, except more cheaply, as no boats to carry round the world. I'm sure the RYA would find a way to spend millions, though. Same with match racing.

For all this, though, just decent, simple fleet racing is still going to be better. Or get a top 10 from one series, then start again with a 3 race final series, everyone equal, sailed on one day. After all, you don't get a head start in the final in athletics based on your qualifying time.
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Originally posted by JimC

Here's a little challenge. Worldwide spread is a big thing for the IOC.
The Olympic continents are Africa, Americas, Asia, Europe and Oceania. Sailing had medallists from 4 continents and 17 countries. List 12 countries and 4 continents that, right now, could feasibly put together a decent team racing team. List team racing worlds results to justify your assertion.


Most of us only get involved with team racing for a couple of years at uni, so it shouldn't be a problem.
But team racing would be 18 medals for one event and hundreds of sailors.
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Football? Hockey? 33 medals. Lots of players.
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