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    Posted: 10 Mar 16 at 1:01pm
That's what I had originally thought, but discounted it as it seems risky with a deck stepped mast and non adjustable shrouds.

Is there a pin or something in mast foot to keep it attached to the deck?
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There are a number of schools of thought on comfort. Boats where you sit on the side of the boat and have a deep cockpit would seem more comfortable, but a physio will tell you that once the knees have any real bend in them, when you hike with the upper body, its the knees that take the battering. Straight legged hiking is not only the most efficient but the best for the knee joints. The irony is that the hiking position for a laser is actually one of the best, but that assumes 2 things 1) that you know how it should be hiked and 2) that you have core muscles of steel so can achieve the position. I'd guess tha 90% of Lasers are hiked inefficiently with bent knees and backs because of the lack of 1) above or most likely 2) so we all call it the kneewrecker somewhat unfairly. 

The Blaze probably has one of the best options because unless you go mad, the whole leg is supported to the edge of the racks in a straight legged stance (albeit its kneeling dead downwind counters that slightly). I dont therefore buy the argument that a deep cockpit enhances comfort if you intend to really hike. If you want to pearch and lean ( no core muscles ) and have footstops to hold you in the boat then I do get the comfort angle especially on a beamy boat. However, he who hikes hard in any boat will be faster. The aero and indeed the short time I had in a dzero both show that you dont need high sides for hiking comfort but of course some core muscles really help here and I appear to have mislaid mine over the winter. Embarrassed
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Originally posted by Ardea

That's what I had originally thought, but discounted it as it seems risky with a deck stepped mast and non adjustable shrouds.

Is there a pin or something in mast foot to keep it attached to the deck?

It sits between two adjustable pins at either end of the foot itself which probably has a camber on it. Unless the forestay or fixed stays fail it will stay in place as the mast is raked - same as a Supernova or Phantom.
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Cheers Simon.  A quick image search of supernovas and phantoms show it's highly tried and tested.  I must just be needlessly paranoid of masts moving!
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Simon,my core strength was mislaid somewhere towards the end of the 20th century.

Wide boats always seem to have more sail area, somehow by more than the extra width, and can also be harder to cope with in a sudden lull, or so I've found, so maybe not the complete answer for unfit light people. I'm finding the scow shape pretty good for that.
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Originally posted by rb_stretch

Assymmetrc singlehanders like the D1 avoid the sitting in the boat bit, but unfortunately just don't work on restricted waters.

Sorry, beg to differ. My RS100 is great fun on Frensham and competitive too, judging by the drop in 10.2 PY, much of which is probably driven by my club results, looking at the stats.

But any assy is comprised in restricted tidal waters where you sometimes running out of the tide is essential. In that context, the H2 looks interesting.

I've not sailed it but I am wondering whether in the light and downwind, I'd want the weight in front of the thwart, which could get rather tangly as configured. In a phantom, it can be sit-right-up-by-the-mast-time and getting the H2's arse out of the water is going to need the same I reckon.
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I think the control lines are still unfinished at this point. They need to be neater and run more freely, but thats all down to the leads and the blocks used. There was no purchase on the cunningham for a start, which you will need with a battened fat head like that. 
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I cant believe looking at the boat you have not wanted to put a spinnaker on it.
Bring forestay back onto metal bar as 400 and have wingwang pole up front. She look made for it.
Nice looking boat and will be interesting to see how she sails against other boats.
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Byte still available at three an an arf'......Need to be a neo- midget however. I like the look of this Hadron and I bet it gets a small, dedicated, (wealthy) following.
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What's the giant tunnel for? I assume it's rear wheel drive and it contains the prop shaft?
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