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Originally posted by pondlife1736 Originally posted by SimonW99 I actually think all clubs should limit allowable sailing craft to 1 x cat, 1x una rigged singlehander, 1 x skiff /kite singlehander, 1 x non hiking double hander and 1 x skiff double hander. We would all moan about not being able to sail what we wanted, but reality is 20 lasers, 20 visions and 10 800's on a Wednesday night would be much more of a laugh than 50 different boats and some weird handicap system.  No no no - some of us like handicap racing, we want to sail the boat of our choice, and don't give a damn about series results or PY. To me, the only thing that matters is having a good race with whoever/whatever boat happens to be well matched to me on that particular day.

Agreed.    The other major failing of your plan Simon, is what you do with your youth and junior sailors?

And somehow you expect your Fireball/Laser 2/3000 sailors to either sail a Vision or to jump into an 800? The 800 might be easier than a 49er, but it really isn't a boat you can sail without putting in lots of hours.

Nope, fleet racing is crap when you are forced into a boat you either don't enjoy sailing, or don't even fit into properly. PY racing, while not great, at least lets you sail something you want to sail, and therefore its real racing as you are competing against one another even if the results can be skewed by conditions, etc. However if you are in the wrong boat then I would say that fleet racing is not "true racing" as you cannot compete on an even footing. None of it is right, its what suits the individual.

Originally posted by maxibuddah Nope, fleet racing is crap when you are forced into a boat you either don't enjoy sailing, or don't even fit into properly. PY racing, while not great, at least lets you sail something you want to sail, and therefore its real racing as you are competing against one another even if the results can be skewed by conditions, etc. However if you are in the wrong boat then I would say that fleet racing is not "true racing" as you cannot compete on an even footing. None of it is right, its what suits the individual.

Originally posted by SimonW99 Sorry, thats tosh

I've seen plenty of daft posts over the years, but that has to be pretty near the top for blinkered, well, lets leave off the next word for sake of not being too rude, but you can all add tye word of your choice...