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rs600676 ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 24 Sep 11 Location: bristol Online Status: Offline Posts: 50 |
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hi people just a quick vid to show how i tack and gybe the rs 600 in the low stuff hope it helps if anyone is stuck or needs help
heres also the link to the full size version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86Ls1kr5m-s
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Contender 516 ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Apr 12 Location: Hants Online Status: Offline Posts: 5 |
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Very helpful! Do you have anything in the same vein for more wind? There are similar things on the Contender site but they assume some knowledge (ie more than I have)- after my first attempt this w/end I was trying to work out where to put my hands- the old dagger grip put the tiller extn in the wrong place and my mainsheet hand was fouling on the trap elastic- looking at vids it seems people use the over the shoulder grip for the extn so I need to re learn a few things.
The main cleat seemed very low and I could only cleat in it using my foot to push the sheet down, maybe that is a good thing, but sheeting in was an issue. Any advice most welcome!
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Neptune ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 09 Location: Berkshire United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1314 |
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You try that in a 600 without a mainsheet cleat Sten......actually you could probably do it... the rest of us would either end up in a massive tea bag or snapping our extension on the wing as we missed the hook :
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Contender 516 ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Apr 12 Location: Hants Online Status: Offline Posts: 5 |
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OK so it seems most people use the over the shoulder position for the extension, I'll need to work out how to sheet in like that: I could only get the sheet into the cleat by using my rear foot, but I guess that is how it needs to be? Looking at Mark P's 700 vid (following the MPS one), attaching the end of the main sheet to you seems logical, but presumably you need some sort of quick release in case you fall out or capsize? Trouble with all these videos is they are starting at a higher level than I'm at! I haven't seen anything showing basic set up (like fixing the sheet to your harness or not) and how to hold the extension and main sheet. I was trying the dagger hold I used when sitting out, but the extn fouls the trap wire and seems in the way, and my main sheet was fouling on the trap elastic as I said before.
I am a pretty experienced sailor, but not on a trapeze
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Neptune ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 09 Location: Berkshire United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1314 |
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Your extension should only foul the trapeze wire when you are reaching or perhaps in light winds....as soon as your wiring properly you should be pretty much holding the end of it.
The skiff/700's clip the mainsheet to the harness so that when they are playing the kite they can still get to the mainsheet. On a 600/ Contender you shouldn't need to do this. if the elastic is getting in the way cock your leg over it so that it runs up the back of your leg - this should help until you get yourself sorted. Concentrate and practice keeping the boat flat as you go into the tack -and practice lost until its second nature. Don't feel you have to go straight into wire to wire tacks. Start off sitting on the side hooking on and off, shouldn't make much of a difference. have fun
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Ian29937 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 25 May 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 409 |
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The Contender has it's own very specific challenges due to the low boom. In the Contender when I had one and the 700 now I use the dagger grip whilst I'm sailing, ensuring if I'm half crouching that it goes over my back shoulder, behind the trapeze line, but switch to pan handle for tacks as I find it easier to switch round the back without hitting the boom. When you're learning on the Contender you might try dropping the kicker before each tack to give yourself some room. There is a rsik in doing this as you will constantly be adjusting the Kicker before and after tacks, but whilst you have the water wings on.....
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Contender 516 ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Apr 12 Location: Hants Online Status: Offline Posts: 5 |
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I was basically reaching up and down just to get the basics, I guess when beating you would be further forward and nearer the end of the extension. I stood the mast up and left the kicker pretty loose to give me a chance to get under the boom, it's only going to get harder when I start trying to do it properly but I've done about 3 hours trapezing in the last 36 years (all on the helm), and only a very small amount of helming from the trap before that as a teenager so the learning curve will be pretty steep! I did a bit of crewing back in the 80's so I've got the basics, and I think windsurfing has given me the balance, because at least I was pretty stable when out there
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Jack Sparrow ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2965 |
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This video has quite a bit of tacking and gybing in it. It's a Farr 3.7 so no limbo dancing to get under the boom like your contender but it may give you some pointers.
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dics ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 05 Oct 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 317 |
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You must have seen these great instructional videos???
http://contenderclass.org/en/the-boat/howtosail.html
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