Grafham Grand Prix

Don't think I'll bother then 1026 for a Blaze!!! They are off their trolley - I was never going to be competitive, but a level playing field, a realistic playing field, and some good old common sense would be good. Those figures are bonkers!!

Jon

.... and Icon is 'rated' or is that really 'assessed' at 990 .  I suppose they have to hobble new classes like us (we don't have the 'marketing clout' to 'impose' our own assessment  ;-)  But please can we have an explanation as to the sailjuice methodology applied to those with more established and widely proven handicaps.

I would hope the identical method applied is the same for all classes and numerically based .... so lets know a bit more about the criteria / formula used.

Nothing wrong in my book with alterations ... if 'needed'  .... except where it is not consistent for all classes or where the method is not objective or publicaly explained / open for all to appreciate.  What many would presumably like to know is exactly what 'considerations' are in play !  Give us the spreadsheets and formulas .. or point us in the right direction if already available !!

I don't think this is an unreasonable request of organisers that do want people to attend .... Am I alone in this ?

Mike L.

Nope, I've done very little to suggest 990 would be right (must be you Mike, I told you to slow down!)- but I do fully support big movements to PYs where needed as the official numbers seem to lag a long way behind for some classes, esp development and 'updated' classes.

Mike/Peaky,

The numbers have been calculated by Andrew Craig from Queen Mary. They are compiled from results from all of the clubs in the Sailwave series - Queen Mary, Rutland, Grafham, Northampton and Draycote. I'll point him in the direction of this thread to see if he can answer your queries more directly. Interestingly the numbers were not too dissimilar to numbers that Starcross had calculated for their own Steamer event, so they have asked to use the same numbers too I believe.

As a 300 sailor considering going to GGP, what worries me more than any of the handicap adjusments is that the 300's (and contenders to some extent) have been lumped in with spinnaker boats in the medium handicap fleet rather than the rest of the singlehanders, all because of less than 8 point difference to the PN cut off bands.


Edited by chrisg - 21 Dec 11 at 8:27am

'See Y & Y last month. The Sailjuice events are using a yardstick based on a "Class Champion" assessment on open inland water. The normal PY is supposed to be based on fleet average performance on all waters'

Quote from post responding to the question of handicaps for the series taken from the 12 forum.


Edited by Jeremyc - 21 Dec 11 at 10:21am