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feva sailor 
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 Topic: laser or a topperPosted: 11 Nov 08 at 4:50pm |
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my brother is 55kg in weight and isnt sure of what is better for him the laser 4.7 or the topper.
he is a good sailor with just under 2 years experience in an RS feva. What is the better boat. also the racing around here is all topper, very few laser's around and the training for topper is much better.
i think the topper is better for him personally but i just want to hear a few opinions |
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alstorer
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Posted: 11 Nov 08 at 4:53pm |
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If racing's what he wants, and the Topper is the much stronger class in the area, is there really any need to ask? Other than so you can say to him "a bunch of people on the internet said you'd be an idiot not to go for the Topper for now".
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JimC
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Posted: 11 Nov 08 at 4:55pm |
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And for whatever my opinion is worth the 4.7 is a ghastly creation with the rig and hull completely out of balance...
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feva sailor
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Posted: 11 Nov 08 at 5:06pm |
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that's the kind of reply i was hopeing for thank you Jim
Is the radial sutable for a 55kg person or is it too much? |
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sailor_420
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Posted: 11 Nov 08 at 5:25pm |
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Well i used to sail the radial at 55kgs and in anything over a F4 i was overpowered. Also ive sailed both the 4.7 and the topper and to be honest i had a lot more fun in the topper. The 4.7 always seems to be underpowered probably down to the lack of foot. Also if you say there is more topper racing than lasers then i think you have answered your own question...
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no limits
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Posted: 11 Nov 08 at 5:45pm |
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at the threat of commenting i would say that the 4.7 is more fun to sail along as you can say that their will be more than 10knts of wind which means that they can perfom to handicapp. i was in a similar posistion 2years ago and went for the 4.7 as after 6 months in topper i hated the surfboard style hull that isnt good in short chop which is common where i sail. Also 4.7s where sailed by the top youngesters at the club. turns round and runs at this point just my 2p
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Jon Emmett
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Posted: 11 Nov 08 at 6:57pm |
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The 4.7 has an active circuit and teaches the fundamental boat handling skills required for the larger Laser rigs.
I think if your brother does one season in the 4.7 he will then be in good shape to move onto the Radial the following season. Although I raced the Radial International at 55Kgs, there were not 4.7 rigs around in my day! If you let me know where you are based I can send you details of the Laser regional training. |
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feva sailor
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Posted: 11 Nov 08 at 7:14pm |
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west wales. i know someone in a 4.7 but thats the only 4.7 i am aware of in the area |
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Jamie600
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Posted: 11 Nov 08 at 7:55pm |
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Jim's right the 4.7 is a dog. I'd go for a Topper for the fleet racing but it might be worth bearing in mind your brother is (I think) at the top end of the weight range for a Topper and at the bottom of the range for a Radial, is he likely to have a sudden growth spurt? |
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feva sailor
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Posted: 11 Nov 08 at 8:21pm |
well i hope not he's already taller than me just about
He's lanky so he is tall and slim, he's more likley to bulk out more than grow in an upwards direction but he is only 13 so im sure he will continue to climb for a number of years.
he was strugling the other day in a topper 4.2 rig in a F5 |
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