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skslr ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 24 Jul 06 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 139 |
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I would like to know what people think about it.
Especially what it is like compared to a Laser and how "comfy" and light wind capable it would be with 1,90 m / 85 kg. I am just interested in the boats themselves, I am perfectly aware that Lasers got calls associations, big fleets, training, Olympics whatever. I am sailing twin wire boats so it is not exactly from a beginner's point of view ![]() |
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feva sailor ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Sep 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 186 |
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go for the feva
same size boat but has a jib and a kite way more amusing. im 60KG and sail it with all sails going in up to about F3-4 |
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Webmuppet ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Mar 06 Location: Suffolk Online Status: Offline Posts: 534 |
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The Q'ba is a very nice looking boat, looks as if RS have had a very close look at the Pico and updated it. The Feva is probably a better 'yoof' boat but the Q'ba looks a bit better proportioned for an adult (or an adult + child)
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radixon ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2407 |
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I saw one sail at the club, the guy was sailing it well (adult) and looked ok. The guy rigged it really quickly as it is a track mast fitting. Useful with It depends what you like, if you want to go quicker then you may want more sail area, if you just want a pootle around, then the Q'ba will be fine. In my experience of Wednesday night races, its light winds, go with whatever takes your fancy. |
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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What's the handicap of the Q'ba? Got to be at least 7% slower than a Laser according to my estimates, except in light winds if you use the 1.2 sqm (!) jib as well. But as soon as the boats are moving, the Laser must walk away from it. I'm surprised nobody has suggested you try a Laser 8.1, especially for Wednesday night sailing. |
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roadsterboy3 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 09 Sep 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 8 |
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i think the q'ba is a fantastic boat .
I would like one to train my family in. |
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Hornet 934 is what i sail
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skslr ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 24 Jul 06 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 139 |
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Could you explain the background of your estimation, please? ( For me to learn, I cannot claim to know better!) Waterline length must be less, but the big sail has got similar area and potentially better shape ![]() Laser Standard or 8.1. is the obvious choice, but... Regarding Feva: On the tiny places I am thinking about asymmetric kites will be useless in most wind conditions. |
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feva sailor ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Sep 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 186 |
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RS vareo?
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Webmuppet ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Mar 06 Location: Suffolk Online Status: Offline Posts: 534 |
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That rules out the Vareo too !.......perhaps the Laser/Rooster 8.1 would be a decent choice ? I've just got that very combination but I've only limited experience in the Laser so I don't think that I could say that it's 'just the thing' until I've got used to sailing mine........however, so far, so good ! Nigel |
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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It is largely the waterline length, but I do try to estimate waterline beam and wetted area and its effects on drag too, as well as 'planability'. I don't even try to guess the effect of 'plastic vs GRP' or details of hull shapes, or rig efficiency - surprisingly most boats fall into line anyway, indicating that these details make little difference in ball-park terms (but still plenty enough to notice in class events where one percent is a huge advantage). I'd say 7% overall is the very least difference I'd expect between the standard Laser and Q'ba; probably it will be 10% or more (i.e. Ainslie in a Q'ba will still beat me in a Laser!) |
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