Dinghy Identification - Help

   Hi everyone,

I am looking for your assistance in identifying a boat that it has been suggested is an Osprey. A French student has posted on the Osprey Class web site requesting help and I said I would  see what I could do on a wider basis. 

Having looked at the photographs supplied several of the Osprey Class have doubts that it is an Osprey. So over the to a larger population for detective work  

Information known at this time.
Stored upside down on racking in a building in France
Apparantly sailed from England to France by previous owner from Dover to Dunkirk
Approximately 5m long +- some
4-panel each side 'clinker' construction
Deck stepped mast

Sorry the photo is upside down I am using the link I was sent, I will try to ammend later today.

an another photo

I look forward to your thoughts.
Kind regards,
Huw

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osprey Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Newbie Joined: 07 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 12	Post Options Post Reply Quote osprey Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Dinghy Identification - Help Posted: 26 May 07 at 8:52am
	Hi everyone, I am looking for your assistance in identifying a boat that it has been suggested is an Osprey. A French student has posted on the Osprey Class web site requesting help and I said I would see what I could do on a wider basis. Having looked at the photographs supplied several of the Osprey Class have doubts that it is an Osprey. So over the to a larger population for detective work Information known at this time. Stored upside down on racking in a building in France Apparantly sailed from England to France by previous owner from Dover to Dunkirk Approximately 5m long +- some 4-panel each side 'clinker' construction Deck stepped mast Sorry the photo is upside down I am using the link I was sent, I will try to ammend later today. an another photo I look forward to your thoughts. Kind regards, Huw

Villan Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 26 Nov 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1768	Post Options Post Reply Quote Villan Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 26 May 07 at 5:15pm
	Enterprise?
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Contender443 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 01 Oct 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1211	Post Options Post Reply Quote Contender443 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 26 May 07 at 5:41pm
	Looks like an Osprey to me and with those dimensions. It is definitely not an Enterprise.
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laser4000 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 02 Aug 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 589	Post Options Post Reply Quote laser4000 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 26 May 07 at 6:03pm
	I thought ent originally then I thought too long.. whay about a wayfarerrrrr, but that doesn't have the right number of chines..so I think it is an osprey. They have very distinctive chines at the bow, so I suggest a 'full frontal' photo to compare with the photoes on this site.. for example

osprey Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Newbie Joined: 07 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 12	Post Options Post Reply Quote osprey Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 26 May 07 at 6:43pm
	Hi All, Reasons thought not too be an Osprey are:- The boat in the pictures appears to have a deck stepped mast The stern deck looks not large enough and does not form an enclosed rear bouyancy tank The side decks do not form an enclosed side bouyancy chamber To the best of the class knowledge no Osprey has had any of these attributes. But we are willing to be educated and learn of a long lost form of Osprey. My current own thought is a National 18. Kind regards, Huw Webmaster Osprey Class Website www.ospreysailing.org

saintade64 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 27 May 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote saintade64 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 07 at 4:53pm
	Jack Holt did design a boat that was meant to be a larger version of the Enterprise. It was called the Lazy E. 15 foot long, double chine etc. I've got a book that does a bit of a write up about it, but the photo is pretty unhelpful in determining whether it's the same boat. Ade

olly_love Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 18 Jan 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1145	Post Options Post Reply Quote olly_love Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 07 at 5:25pm
	it looks alot like an old gp14 but again with those sizes it cant be
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redback Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Tunbridge Wells Online Status: Offline Posts: 1502	Post Options Post Reply Quote redback Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 07 at 11:03pm
	Not an Ent since it only has one thwart. Not a GP14 since it has more than one chine. Not an Osprey since it has a deck stepped mast. I's say its about 15 ft long and has many of the characteristics of an Ent so is probably a Holt design.

blaze720 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 28 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1635	Post Options Post Reply Quote blaze720 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 07 at 11:36pm
	Lazy E ? Blaze720

Chris 249 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041	Post Options Post Reply Quote Chris 249 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 May 07 at 12:02am
	The Holt Lazy E (still sailing in Australia in small numbers under the boring and misleading name "National E") has only two chines while this seems to have three. Stem profile, thwart design and number and presence of a quarterdeck also seem to be pointers against it being an E. I'd say it was a Caneton (hard chine French development class 5.05m long, the class that adopted the 505 as its OD version) but for the fact that it's allegedly a British boat. And a French student may have known about Canetons. Edited by Chris 249