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    Posted: 10 Feb 07 at 10:20pm
Moving this from the photo's thread.

There seems to be a serious disparity in terms of cash for Uni sailing clubs across the country.  On the one hand, there are the Northern Uni's that struggle for funding and boats and generally win nothing big (thinking about Team Racing here), and don't get a look in on the yachting scene.  Our budget was £1000 for a year, another said their budget was £600.

On the other hand, we have some Uni's in the South that seem to wallow in cash, buying new J-80's and fleets of boats. 

First question, where does this money come from, and second question why did we had to struggle so hard to replace our crap Laser II's when there is so much money in the South for Uni sailing?

Should there be a level playing field?  Should the RYA be taking action?

Bear in mind, this isn't born out of bitterness, just pure jealousy
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dont think that we have massive budgets.  we are all strugleing and haveing problems financing at the moment. and have to try to find a sponsor for new boats cause ours are very old and shot.  our yachting team is the current top in the uk and still struggles for funding
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Plus the club at Solent uni is run terribly. Might be a contributing factor, and also the favourtism and cliqueyness.
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Plymouth uni yacht club has about 300 members, what does this compare to other unis? also the j80s are shared with a local sailing school

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Originally posted by combat wombat

Should there be a level playing field? 

There is a rumour going around that Manchester FC has a bigger budget than Torquay United. How come these clubs in the north have more money? Something should be done about it.

 

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This is terrible, I never new that the poor students had to put up with going sailing in old boats.  Perhaps the BBC could donate the comic relief money to the universities so they could go sailing in brand new boats instead of ones that may be a few years old!
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Originally posted by Stefan Lloyd

There is a rumour going around that Manchester FC has a bigger budget than Torquay United. How come these clubs in the north have more money? Something should be done about it.



Football clubs are different - separate organisations based on competition that are regulated by the FA.  Uni sailing clubs are, for many people, the basis of their sailing career.  Shouldn't the RYA (ie conceptually the governing body for sailing in the UK) be ensuring that there is at least a basic standard for these places? 

Certainly my experience of Liverpool Uni SC was that the crap boats put people off.  I wasn't asking for the latest kit, but these Laser II's weren't just a few years old, they were completely shafted - holes in the bows, ripped sails, bent booms, missing rudders and tillers, bent masts - and no money to fix them.

When I requested help from the RYA, they didn't want to know.  Eventually I raised £10,000 from a local body, £1000 for the sale of the 4 Laser II's and £800 from running a team racing event - just enough to buy 6 second hand Firefly's from West Kirby Sailing Club - it was a monumental struggle and I have no idea how I got a degree whilst running the club.

The disparity would be fair if we were competitive institutions, but our club was mainly for training and introducing people into the sport. 


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Originally posted by combat wombat


Football clubs are different - separate organisations based on competition that are regulated by the FA. 

And uni clubs also compete against each other in team racing. That, I assumed, was the source of your whinge about a "level playing field". Well, raising money for equipment is part of that competition. Consider it a lesson for life.

As for the RYA handing out money to uni clubs, where exactly do you think the RYA gets its money from?

 

 



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r u at solent uni.

have to admit it is clicky,  but it is a good laugh, they will give anyone a chance.  cant realy comment on how it is run.

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Originally posted by Stefan Lloyd

And uni clubs also compete against each other in team racing. That, I assumed, was the source of your whinge about a "level playing field". Well, raising money for equipment is part of that competition. Consider it a lesson for life.

As for the RYA handing out money to uni clubs, where exactly do you think the RYA gets its money from?

 


Let me just clarify Stefan, I'm not "whinging" here, just attempting to start a discussion on the topic.  Fair enough, I stated at first that the Northern clubs didn't win much in Team Racing, but my true question is the lack of RYA help to clubs that are attempting to get people into sailing. 

I know where the RYA gets its money from, but thats not the point or the question.  An organisation like the RYA should at least consider that they could actually gain from this, as help at grass roots equals more sailors likely to join the RYA later. 

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