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    Posted: 05 Jun 06 at 7:21pm

Originally posted by gonzo

In a strong blow in a rs200 fleet your going to struggle to sail high with the kite but should be able to plane down wind earlier than anyone else govoing you a big advanatge meaning you can bear off and sail the shorter distance to the mark.

Im not sure what your trying to say here? Yes, they may be light, and true they will be able to sail low, but wont be gaining the power other boats do - so sailing low is still going to be slower than sailing high, breezy or not.
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Do 200's tend to sail by apparent wind, when it isnt very breezy. There is an ok 200 at my club and they tend to sail 'low and slow' until it gets much more windy. Also at the SSR/200/400/assymetric event at East lothian last weekend, they all seemed to be sailing 'low and slow'.
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yea, i find that yank on some kicker and some cunningham and you should be fine

i think it has already been said but if the cunningham is right on and you are still overpowered then move down a should and start the cunningham at the top again and start pulling again till it feels good
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In a strong blow in a rs200 fleet your going to struggle to sail high with the kite but should be able to plane down wind earlier than anyone else govoing you a big advanatge meaning you can bear off and sail the shorter distance to the mark.
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Attending RS200 training days and open meetings would obviously be my best bet for learning more about the boat and seeking out help with settings etc. but... my main problem is not having a crew that's really interesting in anything more than handicap racing at our sailing club (not a great learning ground!)

I sail at Medway Yacht Club on the River Medway down in Kent. For those of you that don't know it (and I'm sure that's most of you!) it's a fairly large river and tidal, busy with both shipping and leisure boats.

"gonzo" - you mentioned heading downwind and sailing deep, where we should effectively kick arse. I'm not sure how deep we should be able to sail but on a run within a handicap fleet of bigger assymmetric kites we struggle to sail nearly as deep as them - is that right or am I doing something majorly wrong here as well??

I'm sorry if I sound seriously stupid to most of you guys but I've only really sailed a laser radial before and this is a wee bit different!
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With pulling on a lot of cunningham, it allows the top section of your sail area to spill,at least in most of the fully battened sailed boats that I've sailed. Kicker seems to pull the centre of effort back in the sail, but what I reccomened is just to sail the boat and tune it till you find what's most suitable to your weight. We had spot on tuning guides for our boat, Went out in a Force 6, decided to adjust the cuningham excessively, made a hell of a difference, actually meant we could sail the boat a bit, and got a few bullets to our name. We have no calibration strips on our boat because we generally tune in to what's most fastest and handlable. Tuning guides can be good but often lead to complacency and if you are below the reccommended weight for your class, the best thing you can do is work out your own settings on the water................if the kicker and downhaul are jammed right in and the boat is still overpowereded, move down a notch on your shroud plates!

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holly what is your sail number i think i have seen you at an event nssa at oxford may be rong could have been some one els
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Holly,

Definately make sure you crank on your cunnigham as this will flatten your sail in conjuction with pulling on your outhaul and when it really gets windy then crank your kicker on but remeber to release before you bear away around the top mark or you may need to invest in a new boom. (Found that out on a laser on a windy day)

It is also criticle that you and your crew work as a team. Easeing both the main and jib simultaniously (something like that) to keep flow attached to the sails and reduce side ways slippage. Again make sure you have plenty of jib luff tension and have your jib car as far back as possible to get the correct shape. If you get hit by a gust hke hard and sail with the first 1/4 of the jib backed but then remeber to ease and re trim when you come back off.

Battern tension on the main from my experiance on Cats in light winds we have a loose to medium tension to give the sail some shape. medium winds lots of tension to accelerate the air flow but then in strong winds little tension to stop the sail from having such a deep shape.

Correct me if im wrong this is just my veiw.

Eat lots sail fast. Should be untouchable on the down wind leg going very deep.
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I had a dig around the interweb and found this...

http://www.hisc.co.uk/rs200/rs200tune.htm


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I believe the 200's have some very good training days, so best advice would be to get along to one of these. Failing that, two ladies sail one at PchSC, and they learned a lot by going to a couple of local events. I know it's a lot of effort and can be difficult to arrange, but it really pays. (Lou has two kids,so she obviously had to sort them).

Oh, and I just thought: join the 200 mailing list, if it's anything like the 300 and Vario ones, there's no end of good advice!



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