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zippyRN ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 437 |
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GCSE PE and performing arts types subjects should include theory, GCSE Music always has - even back in the 1990s it was suggested than you needed g4 /5 theory and if you were offering. a convetional instrument as part of your assessed work that should be grade 4/5 .
The RYA may also wish to consider something that both the Dance / Drama /Music awarding bodies and the Army Cadets / Air Cadets have done which is get their qualifications mapped into the QCF ( the performing arts side are their own awarding bodies - but they have traditionally been more of an exam board with local organisations teaching to their syllabuses , and the Cadet organisations used Pearson under the BTEC brand ) |
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I understand , in some peoples eyes. 'if you can't choose it as sport in PE then it's not really a sport' and this is a threat to the credibility of sailing. But balance that against the practicality of teachers marking a sport they have no idea about... everyone who did sea scouts got full marks for being able to tack and gybe, whilst a regular in the school footy team would get 60%.
In reality taking sailing out of GCSE has no bearing on how much sailing actually takes place. Schools which do extra curricular sailing (very few) will still do so, and those that don't still won't. No school takes their pupils sailing so they can choose the sport for GCSE. No one takes up sailing just so they can get marks at PE. I think awarding marks for sporting performance, in all but the very few disciplines where time, height and weight can be used as 'standards' is a fools errand. I think there are some great topics in sports science and sport in society that make a great foundation for qualification and should be sole focus for an academic qualification. Yet, I do believe more time should be spent doing sport (or pursuing activities). But solely for social and health reasons so it should be extra curricular. Maybe these sort of experience should be the duty of parents to provide, but not everyone is so fortunate. It would be preferable if schools could provide this experiance without having to mark it. In summary, - Sailing is hard to assess and leads to unfair marks - Academic qualification should focus on interesting academic topics surrounding sport - Including sailing as part of the exam doesn't improve take up of sailing - More time for extra curricular activities including sailing would be preferable
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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RYA L1 and 2 are more like the 11+ than a GCSE, I'd say L3 minimum for GSCE and evidence of racing or 'proper' cruising ability for higher. Sport implies some competitive element so maybe some kind of racing experience should be mandatory?
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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An RYA certificate might show a basic competence in a leisure activity in a controlled and supervised environment, but it shows no regard for the sporting element of racing sailboats. Maybe PE is supposed to be broader than sport alone, but then you might as well take a field trip to Snowden and give an A* to those who can demonstrate the ability to put one foot in front of the other going uphill.
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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Geography students only do colouring in maps in the afternoon, mornings they look out the window at clouds and weather.
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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Sounds like a good idea to me- I remember some kids who were utterly incompetent at racing aceing A grade qualification points simply by presenting a letter from a local instructor and a stamp in some RYA book. Sure - things might be tighter now, but noddy subjects, or at the very least joke modules, seem like an utter waste of time.
I know someone who used their uni sailing at weekend as qualification for the PE Education degree too... oh well, better than a geography degree colouring in maps I guess Edited by turnturtle - 17 Jul 18 at 9:37am |
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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I think the point should be made, anything that directly impacts sailing in any way should be resisted, taking in mind the curriculum states almost half must be physical, RYA certificate should be enough proof of competence.
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This isn't about sailing being practised in schools or school time, it's about it being accepted by the exam board as one of the sports you can demonstrate competency in.
I think it's not really a bad thing. It's almost impossible for a teacher to assess your sailing who have no idea. Secondly, a focus on science behind the sport rather than directly at the sport itself is a good thing for what is still supposed to be a academic qualification. Of course, outside of the qualification, and how that qualification is marked, I think it would be better if kids spent more time doing sport but for the sake of sport alone, rather than for exam marks.
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As much as I like sailing, I’m not sure this is a bad thing. There are surely more accessible, and physical, activities that can be indulged for a GCSE. Yes, I know hiking and pumping are hard work, but so are sit ups. And it surely makes sense that the qualification should cover theory and human biology? There shouldn’t be GCSEs in just doing your hobby, that is what Sundays are for.
On the other hand sailing has many technical aspects, tuning, tactics etc that are unique. Even if it doesn’t get you a GCSE, it is still helpful to mention them up on a job/university application form. |
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My partner's daughter is a PE teacher and what is happening to the curriculum is quite shocking. Actual time doing a sport is being reduced to encompass more time in theory classes and the human biology and diet etc. She mentioned that only 40% if time is in active participation.
So am not surprised that sailing is taking a back seat in some schools. Though, the school I went to many moons ago is increasing its sailing facilities and pupil participation that everyone gets to have a go. Though it is a school based on its famous maritime history in Greenwich and Ipswich.... |
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