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Papa Smurf ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 23 Apr 16 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20 |
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I like to have someone to race against.
Racing all boats in a handicap event is good, but it's easier to compare yourself against someone in the same boat when you're fleet racing. I'm leaning towards the Solution because I like the boat. However no one else sails them where I'm based and I'd need to travel to meet and learn from others in the same boat. We have a growing Streaker fleet, which is where the more experienced heads tell me I should be pointing. Again I like the look of the new revamped version of the boat and there would be direct competition... The H2, like the Solution suffers in comparison to the older more popular classes in that there aren't many about to play with. I'm in two minds which boat to go for. I'm a little heavy for the Streaker and it's slower than a Laser apparently, which feels like the wrong direction to be going. If the Streaker had a more powerful, modern sail it would be an easier decision. The heart says Solution, the head Streaker. I have the winter off-season to save my pennies and work out which to go for. |
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H2 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jul 17 Online Status: Offline Posts: 750 |
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Sorry to be late to the party - but if you like the look of a Phantom but are worried you are too light perhaps consider a Hadron H2?
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Do Different ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312 |
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Thanks iGRF, a nice and logical reply with your sensible head on.
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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When your young, have plenty of time and enthusiasm to beat every challenge, then fine go for difficult challenges.. I'm not young, my time now is strictly limited, every year some damn glitch happens to the running gear, so my opinion gets swayed by that, if something is obviously difficult it quickly gets bunged into the wastebasket by the door marked too difficult to bother with.
When I first started this Lark it took me an entire Summer of refusing to be beaten by a stupid boat, 18 capsizes I recall in one race, but it wasn't going to beat me so I soldiered on, never having been beaten ever by anything I've decided to turn my hand to, I did even manage to win a couple of races in light weather in it, but then went on a training course where it became very clear from watching the 'good guys' and their body language when faced with a stiff breeze, there was never going to be a snowballs chance in hell for me at my build to cope with so many fixed issues,ever since then I'm fairly quick to spot what is and isn't possible. It took me one beat and a wild run back to the jetty to put that 300 in the bin by the door, I'll not bother to step in one ever again, pointless exercise for me and there are dozens of boats I've yet to try and not many years left to do it. Edited by iGRF - 20 Jul 17 at 11:25pm |
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Do Different ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312 |
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BTW. iGRF not being able to sail a boat and it being a bad boat are not always the same thing.
FWIW. I had one when they first came along, like you quite early after a few Laser seasons. Really not so bad as some make out, capsize recovery a doddle, gybe all day long up to medium breeze anyway, I was over-horsed in truth with a big rig (2nd hand so got what was about) @ 5ft 4in & <12st, especially where I was at sea. I gave up on it because I struggled to tack reliably in waves and sailing out of a tight and strongly tidal harbour, I thought one day I'd get it wrong in the wrong place. I have tried to be honest in relating my experience with it; same boat with same experience but on a lake and I reckon I'd have kept it for a long while.
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Papa Smurf ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 23 Apr 16 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20 |
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Ahh. Yes. I take your point
The Phantom is a very nice boat. And I do like pies. Try before you buy seems the way to go. |
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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Indeed it does. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() But then of course there are some very strange 'special' people who sail them. ![]() |
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Papa Smurf ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 23 Apr 16 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20 |
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From what you've said the Blaze sounds interesting and the Supernova less so.
All of my sailing this year will be on a small reservoir. No waves, but very changeable winds Probably not Blaze territory. To be honest I quite like moving the boat around me. Something about being part of the dynamic appeals to me. Top of my wishlist would be the D-Zero. It's new, good looking, a little exotic. Purely based on reviews and image. Not likely to happen because it would involve the expense of a new or nearly new boat. Next up would be the Phantom. More of a known quantity. They sail well on these waters. I really like them. However my weight, or lack of it, has me more or less convinced (changes daily sometimes, and everytime I see one I like) that they aren't for me. The Solution I had lined up for this season was sold before I could buy it. There doesn't seem a lot of enthusiasm supporting them which is a little unsettling. We don't run the courses for asymmetrics here so the RS100 is a bit of an non-runner. The Aero didn't jump out at me for some reason. Looking at it I can see some good ideas and great touch's. It has grown on me the more I look at it. Again a newer boat at greater expense. The older style, more traditional boats don't really appeal, even though that's where the best racing is here. Then we have the 300. Exciting, rewarding and completely out of the blue. I wasn't looking for a 300. The boat found me. I'm at the point where I have to accept that the new boats I like cost more, or choose not to care that I might be a little lighter than ideal for the Phantom. But that 300 has caught my interest. It looks like fun. Being sensible about boats is not good for you. There is too much passion involved. |
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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Not capsized the 'nova yet, no issues with the Blaze though (but I haven't binned it in a proper breeze yet). To be fair to the 'nova I'll reserve judgment for the moment but first impressions are less favourable than the Blaze which I knew was a keeper on the first outing.
Our resident Supernova sailor makes his Mk2e go well enough to usually beat the Lasers over the water and often enough on handicap. Unfortunately he's racing the Wednesday series crewing his daughter's RS200 so I can't follow him to see how he does it :( Edited by Sam.Spoons - 20 Jul 17 at 5:08pm |
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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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When I borrowed a SuperSofa when I was between boats I really didn't like it. It felt horrible to sail. Seemed to go quickly enough to keep me ahead of our local Laser fleet. I preferred the Blaze of the 2 but getting back in after a capsize was in through the transom or step round the front of the rack (if you were on the board).
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Paul
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