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    Posted: 09 Jul 07 at 6:10pm

Originally posted by Philsy

Originally posted by k_kirk

My bad. Wanted to say Feva.


OK, thanks. I guess a Feva is one stage beyond a Pico. Would you agree?

I've never sailed one but it does look like a better investment. Hulls look and size fairly similar. Feva S (non-batten main) allows reefing so first season she could sail the Feva S version which would be similar to sailing a Pico alone. When ready or when you're with her she could add the jib and gennaker. You could get her the battened main at some point as well and turn the rig into the XL version. I see it as a long living investment + good racing in the UK from what I read. I think its a good boat to grow out of Opti with.
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Originally posted by k_kirk

My bad. Wanted to say Feva.


OK, thanks. I guess a Feva is one stage beyond a Pico. Would you agree?
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Mirror? Depending on how big she is she may have to find an older/bigger friend in heavy winds, but they're quite manageable for kids and great fun (yes, I'm biased).
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My bad. Wanted to say Feva.
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Originally posted by k_kirk

Originally posted by HannahJ

How about a double-hander? Can
sail with a friend then.


Good point. Take a look at Tera, Pico etc. My elder daughter is turning
11 in November, weighs 35 kgs. She solo'es a Pico with confidence and
loves the fact that she can take her mom or granny for a spin
occasionally. Furling main provides additional adaptability. And yes, she
does like Pink on yellow... Gave up training in the Opti squads long time
ago. Still does the occasional regatta for fun but generally prefers sailing
with me or herself on the Pico with me close by on something else. Hope
your daughter continues enjoying her sailing in whatever you end up
choosing. Good luck.



Isn't Tera single-handed only?
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Originally posted by HannahJ

How about a double-hander? Can sail with a friend then.

Good point. Take a look at Tera, Pico etc. My elder daughter is turning 11 in November, weighs 35 kgs. She solo'es a Pico with confidence and loves the fact that she can take her mom or granny for a spin occasionally. Furling main provides additional adaptability. And yes, she does like Pink on yellow... Gave up training in the Opti squads long time ago. Still does the occasional regatta for fun but generally prefers sailing with me or herself on the Pico with me close by on something else. Hope your daughter continues enjoying her sailing in whatever you end up choosing. Good luck.
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Originally posted by HannahJ

How about a double-hander? Can sail with a friend then.


Gosh, she'd never stop chatting

Too small for a Feva, so a Pico, perhaps?
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Originally posted by Philsy

Hi, not my pride but more that I'm worried she's going to
get disillusioned
with sailing. She was out yesterday and was struggling to bail out water.
She's a girl who loves extreme sports (madly so) and always wants speed
and excitement.

AS you say, though, she will decide in the end.
Ummm... my boy
is 10. A freestyle skier, big jumps and tricks etc, Skateboarder -  he drops
in on half pipes, kick flips, pop shuv it's etc, National champion Judo etc,
he climbs with me....So he's similar ie loves extreme sports, but in my
experience put kids in the wrong boat and all that extreme sport
confidence can drain away quite quickly if they haven't got the basics
sorted.Now if your daughter is struggerling to bail out an Oppy, is this
because she has capsized because she hasn't got the skills sorted quite
yet?  Or filled it up going downwind because of bad boat trim? Is she
struggerling from lack of strength?Is a faster less numerous boat going to
help?It is a lot less upsetting to struggle to bail out an Oppy than lack the
strength to right a boat that you have capsized several times and can't
get back into.I speed read the post above this one and the poster said
something about a 4.7.so appologies if I have missed what was said.If
you are looking at that route I would be temped to look at a Splash.The
boat is designed to kids rather than adults so it's got the right
dimensions for their legs etc. Righting is easy ( floats low ) which for a kid
in a Laser is hard. Slightly more stable but no less exciting, with loads of
feel and it's responsive. It's ligther and you can get the sail down without
removing the mast. Cheap too.Edit: Sorry you were talking about a
Topper 4.2. The comment still stands. I'd look at a Splash. A far superior
boat.


Your son sounds like my daughter's perfect man!

The bailing at the weekend was due to nose-diving in a choppy sea. Yes,
she should have been sitting further back.

Good point about capsizing - she does like to capsize but may get fed up
if it kept on happening uncontrollably.

I don't know the Splash - I'll take a look.






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How about a double-hander? Can sail with a friend then.
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Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by craiggo

just because the parents never became GBR representatives they want their kids to live out their dreams for them.

The parents at my club have agreed not to get Oppies because even the slightest risk of becoming Oppie parents worries them so much...


What class are they plumping for?

We have a regular turn out of 70 Oppies at our club with very few, 1 / 2 % Oppy parent syndrome.
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