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    Posted: 13 Jun 07 at 10:53pm
To follow on from the post above... that boat is posessed by some kind of speed deamon.
She has a slightly smaller sailplan than most of the fleet but shes stiff, well sorted and down to weight and repeatedly sailed past me at last years nationals in a boat with the same hull design and more rag...
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Yeah i was also thinking of the laser 4000. The 5000 looks like its a bit of a handfull for me at the moment. Where i sail there is a lake which is pretty small, but there is also the Dee estuary which is very large and also has pretty small waves. Crew weight is about 17 - 18 stone. Price range is about up to £2000 so that limits it a lot. So in that price range and that crew weight what options are available....if any?

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Originally posted by FireballNeil

solos beat everything in light winds even the rubbish sailors, we get revenge when the wind blows!


Be thankful you dont have any British Moths or Comets around...you thought the Solo was fast in light airs try beating one of the 2 above!
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Get a 14 even if its a penny. You'll still have lots more fun and plus the nats are at the Royal Yacht Squadron this year :)

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if your on a budget you cant wrong with a laser 5000 or 4000, im 16 and i wanted a 29erxx but i couldnt even afford a normal 29er so i picked up a good 5000 for 1 and half grand and i love it. Be warned tho the sheet load on the kite in anything over a force 4 is pretty big


although if your lucky enough to have a large enough budget just buy a 29er

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Get a 29er.  Great boat.  Lots of competitive yoof to sail against.  Just don't expect to sit down ever!  and you'll need a reliable crew.

It's not as hard to sail as people sometimes make out - my main problem at 78kg (with a 40kg crew) was getting enough heeling power to keep it upright; You MUST use the kite downwind, or it just falls on top of you.  Despite the looks it's a narrow boat with relatively wide wings, whereas the RS500 and 3000 are just moderately wide boats. 

They do seem to be expensive (even 2nd hand) at the moment though.  I've seen one for £3300 but at the price it may need new sails and might have gained some weight (wooden stuff inside).

Do you have £5000 to spend?  If not, and if you don't mind being abandoned by the RYA, a good 2nd hand 3000 is under £2000.
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Originally posted by sailor_420

Do they go in light winds? The 420 is pretty rubbish in light winds always come last in handicaps and get beaten by GPs, solos etc

solos beat everything in light winds even the rubbish sailors, we get revenge when the wind blows!
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9 1/2 stone in a 600? oh this has made my choice for next boat so much easier.

600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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You'll be absolutely fine, weight is not going to make a great deal of difference unless racing very competitively. Besides you'll fly downwind. This is coming from someone who sailed a 600 for a couple of years at 9 1/2 stone, far from competitively but respectably I like to think!
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