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    Posted: 14 Jun 07 at 12:57pm
700 has very similar sail plan to musto doesnt it? it may even have a bigger main, im not sure.
600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote casi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jun 07 at 9:41am

Thanks for all the help.

I think I'm going to look into a laser or sim. for now, and get as much crewing experience as i can

So now all i have to do is find enough money...

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Post Options Post Options   Quote tack'ho Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jun 07 at 2:42pm

Oh yer good point  

caveat all above with if you have about 2k+ to spend then.......

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price might be an issue though
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I think most of the advice ispretty sound,  At 58kilos with your experience i'd definatly go for a hiker for myself and try to get trping experience on others boats, i've always found 17 year old lasses never struggle to get offered sails in other peoples boats   I would clearly recommend the Byte it's tippier than the splash/Laser which will add some interest and teach you more about trim and balance, and has a far better rig than the europe/radial/spalsh/flash combined, and will give you the sort of experience in handling a modern rig you'll need if you move to the modern breed of singlehanders or skiffs. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jack Sparrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jun 07 at 11:10am
Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by Black no sugar

Farr 3.7, cos I'd rather get a new boat build here than getting one shipped from NZ 

I could give you a list of boat builders I'd trust to make you a nice Farr 3.7 if you like... And I suspect either the Hartley Laminates or Carbonology Cherubs would make very decent single sail singlehanders, very close to a Farr 3.7, slightly quicker but slightly tippier. But you would need to get the interior layout reworked to move the mast and daggerboard forward.


been working on that idea for a bit myself Jim. but hoping to make the boat sail well in both standard 2 up cherub mode and single handed.
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Originally posted by Black no sugar

(mini Musto Skiff - would that be possible?? )

Vareo with a slightly bigger main and a trapeze. I'd buy one.

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Originally posted by Black no sugar

Farr 3.7, cos I'd rather get a new boat build here than getting one shipped from NZ 

I could give you a list of boat builders I'd trust to make you a nice Farr 3.7 if you like... And I suspect either the Hartley Laminates or Carbonology Cherubs would make very decent single sail singlehanders, very close to a Farr 3.7, slightly quicker but slightly tippier. But you would need to get the interior layout reworked to move the mast and daggerboard forward.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Black no sugar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jun 07 at 6:01pm

You might be able to borrow a Contender in a light day to get a feel for it. At 58 kgs, you are on the light end of the scales (I'm 60 kgs and 5ft8) and unlikely to handle a Contender in a blow, but you'd be trapezing in a Force 2, when all the lardy a*ses are still trying to get more power. Quite an advantage on the run too, especially in light winds (as much as I like them, Contenders are dead boring in those conditions). The thing that really matters is being able to right the boat from a turtle. I can usually make it (except last Wednesday, when I forgot to uncleat the kicker and the bl**dy thing inverted in no time and stayed there like a stone, doh ).

With practice, your handling skills will improve and you'll be able to depower the sail quickly in a gust. Besides, there are many ways to tune a Contender; you need to ask the good guys, they'll be happy to help. On mine, I have an old Goldspar mast with a very flexible tip, specially adapted for lightweights (by a previous owner in the mists of time).

If you want to have a single-hander trapeze, Contender's the best option, IMO. Don't listen to the bleating crowds telling you to go for a Topper or a 4.7 just because that's what they say in the book! If you enjoy it, you'll get better soon enough!!

I am lucky enough to have a Topper to play with when it's blowing a 5 or 6, in screaming reaches surfing the big waves - that's fun.   

Finally, if there are any boat builders reading this: why oh why there isn't a single hander with trapeze for lightweights? I am convinced a good design would attract plenty of customers, stuck between hiking boats or double-handers. And don't bring in that link to the Farr 3.7, cos I'd rather get a new boat build here than getting one shipped from NZ   Big smile

(mini Musto Skiff - would that be possible?? )

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Originally posted by MRJP BUZZ 585

Originally posted by casi

Originally posted by Strawberry

Where do you live? You sound like good weight to be a Cherub crew!

I live in somerset. Would kill to crew a cherub. Or anything better than a topaz to be honest. The problem at my club is that noone ever seems to need crew...it being very small. (closer to a pond than a lake)

A radial would probably be the sensible option but to be honest i want a bit more of a challenge . I really want something with a trapeze...are there any double handers that i could manage single handed? My main concern about that is my weight (or lack of it).

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Which club in somerset?

Durleigh Sailing Club. Except that I don't exactly sail with them, as I dont have a boat. I sail with Somerset youth and community sailing, but its based at durleigh.

The reservoir is big enough for a trap boat, just not a hugly fast one. There are a couple of contenders sailed, laser 3ks, I think the fastest allowed is a fireball or sim. Not quite musto skiff or rs6/700 water though. 

Looks like a radial is going to be the best option for now :( and maybe try and find someone who will have me as crew while i increase my experience.

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