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    Posted: 12 Jun 07 at 2:57pm
I would of thought the only option, considering the lake size and you want a challenge would be to go for a Int Moth. A Low Rider. Lake sounds to small for a trap boat. If you can find a Magnum 5 or similar you'll get a good challenge, a lot of fun and improve you skills no end.



edit: still better off with a Splash / Flash


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You could try the Vortex. Suitably depowered it would work OK with your weight.

But as others have said, you are probably better off starting a few rungs down the ladder. Even if we assume you are very talented (and not in the way that Stuberry means) you haven't enough experience to have sailed in all conditions, even in a Topaz. And in a singlehander you have to work it out all on your own.

Time on the water means working it all out when the conditions suddenly change on you or something on the boat breaks and you have to get it home. There really is no substitute for it. On the way you'll experience all the things that you learnt in your classes and start to put a perspective on things like balance and trim and apparent wind.

But if you are looking for a milestone to indicate that you could handle a Vortex (and there is a big jump between that and a 600 or 700/MPS) then if you can comfortably crack gybes in a Radial in a Force4/5 then you'll not cause too much damage when moving up.

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Originally posted by casi

Originally posted by Strawberry

Where do you live? You sound like good weight to be a Cherub crew!

I live in somerset. Would kill to crew a cherub. Or anything better than a topaz to be honest. The problem at my club is that noone ever seems to need crew...it being very small. (closer to a pond than a lake)

A radial would probably be the sensible option but to be honest i want a bit more of a challenge . I really want something with a trapeze...are there any double handers that i could manage single handed? My main concern about that is my weight (or lack of it).

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having had a day to fall out of a 700 this weekend i would very definately not recomend jumping straight into a trapeze single hander. i have been sailing for years started in a cruiser then my parents got me and my sister a feva now have a standard rig laser and when i went out in a 700 this weekend i found it difficult. the heming from the wire bit is easy, its the getting onto the wire with all the sticks and bits of string and turning the corners that is the worst bit. you need a 2nd pair of hands.

as for the contender from what ive heard you need quite a few pies to keep one flat but thats just what ive heard.

i would say go for a laser radial/europe/byte for a few years to get used to the racing thing and the getting around a course and stuff then when you think your ready try something more challenging and by then you may also have found someone to crew for.

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Originally posted by Strawberry

Where do you live? You sound like good weight to be a Cherub crew!

I live in somerset. Would kill to crew a cherub. Or anything better than a topaz to be honest. The problem at my club is that noone ever seems to need crew...it being very small. (closer to a pond than a lake)

A radial would probably be the sensible option but to be honest i want a bit more of a challenge . I really want something with a trapeze...are there any double handers that i could manage single handed? My main concern about that is my weight (or lack of it).

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jack Sparrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jun 07 at 9:53am
You are perfect for a Splash

UK Association

International Association

2007 Worlds

Then when you are over eighteen get a new sail and boom
and the 'Splash' becomes a 'Flash'.

After a few seasons in either of these you'll know what your next sailing challenge is for yourself.



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Originally posted by Strawberry

Where do you live? You sound like good weight to be a Cherub crew!


Not because she is young, female and tall then Stu?

On a more serious note casi, cut your teeth on a smaller non trap single hander (Europe, Byte CII or if you must...a Laser Radial) then perhaps looks at something bigger, Kit Stenhouse sails a Musto Skiff not sure of her height and build but she doesn't look like a big lass! I know her hubby hangs round here he can probably expand a bit more on it though. From what I understand the Mussy rewards technique much more then sheer brawn!

Also...see what your local club has to offer, while the Laser Radial may not be very racey it will teach you more in terms of tactics, basic helming etc... You may find a contender a bit of a handful...BnS can advise (our resident forum mum).

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Where do you live? You sound like good weight to be a Cherub crew!
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Probably a laser radial as you seem too light for the full rig. You could have it for a year or two just to get properly into it then step up. You can pick them up really cheap almost anywhere!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote JimC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jun 07 at 9:05pm
Nothing wrong with owning a boat and skippering it from the forward hand position. It can work very well.

Trapeze helming isn't that difficult, but probably a bit of a jump from where you are now. Also not many trapeze singlehanders in the UK that are good at 58kg I don't think.

A Europe might be worth considering as an intermediate singlehander. Although not actually faster than a Laser its a lot more lively.
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