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    Posted: 20 May 07 at 8:28pm

Ross, if your finding yourself overpowered upwind in a Contender the thing to do is foot off a few degrees and inch out main at the same time to keep the boat flat.

This is quick in a Contender as the foils are huge and the resulting increase in speed when you foot off means that they produce more lift, so you will not lose out on pointing either. It seems odd at first as it feels like your being out pointed, but its faster. When I went to my 1st meeting some of angles the top guys were sailing upwind in breeze were huge and very fast but they did'nt lose very much in height.

when you feather the sail to windward the foils stall and you will go sideways alot, this happens more in the Contender than say a Laser as again the centreboard is big. It also helps not to put it fully down in trapezing winds, 3/4 down is enough.

Of course this is only what I have found, others Contender sailors will have their own ways of getting upwind fast.

 

 

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Visualization does help with nailing technique and maneuvers. It definitely helped me when I was first learning center main tacking and gybing. Nothing beats going out and drilling it though. Which is what I'm going to be doing, just finding my own technique and feel of the boat.

When going upwind, I found it a lot easer to feather the boat just so it began to luff slightly if I was getting overpowered, rather than play the main as much as I would in a say a laser or a topper.
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Last steep learning I had to do: the technique I used was, on the way home after each sail (or in the bath later!), think about what manoeuvres etc went wrong. Then I'd picture it back in my mind and try to work out where it was exactly that it was going wrong - helps focus the mind not just on "god my tacking was awful", but why it was awful and what specifically to concentrate on improving on next time. This probably sounds obvious, but simply spending some time properly thinking back on the various cock-ups really did help. Equally important is to contemplate the things which went well and again, understand why they went well so you know to repeat next time.

All this was, as it happens, on a Contender! (I suspect I'll be going thru it again in the 'ball soon, once I get on the water)

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Post Options Post Options   Quote winging it Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 07 at 8:39pm
I did my first contender open this year - Billy No Mates - I was last contender but I learnt masses and all the guys were really friendly.  I'm going to the Nationals next weekend, mostly for the learning experience, and, depending on how it goes may well go to the worlds in Holland.  I've done lots of racing, but this boat is all about technique, so like Chris 249 says above, I'm doing more training on my own than at opens.  Besides, from what I can make out, most of this year's opens have been crash and burn sessions....
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Chris 249 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 07 at 11:32pm
Originally posted by timnoyce

I think that as long as you can keep the boat upright
and in control the majority of the time then the only real way to improve
is
to get involved in regattas. Good luck! 


I kept track of the training the multiple Contender world champ Arthur
Brett did, as we were rivals and team-mates way back when in boards.
He's a great bloke.

He did an
enormous amount of training [I} outside of regattas and I'm fairly sure
he believed that was when you learned how to win. For example,I think
when he found he had a problem getting lee-bowed he would sail at
night (before and after work) with a training partner on his lee bow and
his coach in a RIB. You just don't get hour after hour of that sort of
specific training in regattas.



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Originally posted by timnoyce

As far as I'm aware there is no minimum sailing requirement to take part in the majority of sailing events so go for it. I think that as long as you can keep the boat upright and in control the majority of the time then the only real way to improve is to get involved in regattas. Good luck! 

Not sure that I even met that requirment when I started going to contender open meetings yet everyone was frindly and very supportive, even when I came 9th on the first day due to light wind luck!

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As far as I'm aware there is no minimum sailing requirement to take part in the majority of sailing events so go for it. I think that as long as you can keep the boat upright and in control the majority of the time then the only real way to improve is to get involved in regattas. Good luck! 
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Sounds pretty realistic to me... to win it however I imagine is another matter...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Ross Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 07 at 9:38pm
I hope to compete in the Contender worlds in 5 years time, thats my aim. May be a slightly ambitious but thats my aim.
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that is not easy, even in a wayfarer you are across it in about a minute
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