Rossiter Pintail Mortagne sur Gironde, near Bordeaux |
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Laser 28 - Excellent example of this great design Hamble le rice |
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Laser 140101 Tynemouth |
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Big dad / small kid |
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ChrisJ ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 07 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 337 |
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Current Laser 2000 National Champion is racing in the Open Meetings with his 10-yr old daughter: and still winning. On Sunday, we were racing in a 1.5 hour "around the creeks crawl" at Brightlingsea. An RS700 sailor was out in a Laser 2000 with his 8 year old: On the run back to the finish she took the helm and was told: follow that Laser just in front. She was delighted and totally hooked once she overtook it! Great boats for your purpose. As there is also room for Mum to come out as well! The bins in the fore-deck are just as useful for sweets and toys as for the beers the rest of the fleet carry with them! |
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Guest ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 21 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 0 |
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Tasar is a good shout ...
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alstorer ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Aug 07 Location: Cambridge Online Status: Offline Posts: 2899 |
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I'd back the 2000- of the modern-but-not-rotomolded designs, it is by far the best suited to your requirments. If you're worried about inversion (yes, always an issue on a double bottomed boat) put a mast head float on.
Has other advantages- if you've still got it a few years down the line then you can fit a trapeze kit if he fancies it (not legal for class racing) easily |
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There's a world of difference between a 4 year old and a 10 year old. By the age of 8 or 10, there is a whole heap of boats a child can crew, but at 4, I would have thought that realistically it needs to be something like a Mirror or Grad. |
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KennyR ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 09 Jun 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 52 |
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Peaky - you suggest the Mirror or Grad, both of which are fine boats and well suited to taking small kids out in them. My specific issue is they are both small boats and I'm a classic Finn sailor - a big guy with wide shoulders, long arms and long legs. I have sailed a mirror a few years ago and it is very cramped for me. for this to work it needs to have enough space that I can get comfortable. Being in a comfortable position means I am less likely to be caught out by 'circumstances' and end up in a bad situation. For instance, in the Feva I usually end up kneeling on the floor of lying down. Neither position give you any chance of responding to events and it is very easy to trap sheets in a way that means they cannot be free'd (If you think of the classic beginner in a laser on a windy run, on both knees in the cockpit facing forward, with one hand behind their backs on the tiller and one on the mainsheet, with the tail under their knees. Not good, and although it feels safer than being on the sidedeck not safe either). In many ways I would be happier in a slightly more 'powered' boat with more room, than a small cramped, under powered boat, although I accept it would have to be pretty nuclear for me to get into trouble in a mirror!
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Lukepiewalker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1341 |
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GP not that bad a shout actually. Tres stable and you can put a midi genoa on. Kite is smallish for future reference, and can be singlehanded. Double floored ones eliminate the swamping problems of yore, freeboard and decks and side seats so finding a seating position in comfort doable. Singlehandleabubble on your own in lightish conditions.
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Ex-National 12 3253 "Seawitch" Ex-National 12 2961 "Curved Air" Ex-Mirror 59096 "Voodoo Chile" |
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timeintheboat ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 01 Feb 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 615 |
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Isn't anyone going to suggest the N12?
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Like some other things - sailing is more enjoyable when you do it with someone else
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radixon ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2407 |
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N12 is a good shout
(Just for timeintheboat!) Seriously though, a good shout as they dont have a kite. |
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Graham T ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 123 |
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I'm a 6'2" Osprey sailer but I sail a Miracle with the
kids - plenty of room for me and the family, jib small enough for a kid to handle but enough sail area to have fun.... Mind you the little one loves trapesing in the Osprey now ![]() |
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Osprey 55 "Tebutinnang"
Osprey 1245 "Two Bob Bit" Miracle 1358 "Thumper" |
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Lukepiewalker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1341 |
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National 12 not quite right for Kennys size, shape and weight. All the weight in the back a bit much. Although if willing to accept fun over performance/competitivity a smashing idea, but possibly a bit unstable to start with a small child.
How about a Snipe. Just popped into my head, don't know much about them, but bound to be spacious. Edited by Lukepiewalker |
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Ex-Finn GBR533 "Pie Hard"
Ex-National 12 3253 "Seawitch" Ex-National 12 2961 "Curved Air" Ex-Mirror 59096 "Voodoo Chile" |
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