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    Posted: 14 May 09 at 12:17pm

A backbench MPs job is not full time - otherwise how could they fit in second jobs like so many of them do?  Or take up a cabinet post?

Second home allowance is only one part of the scam.  Nepotism, £250 unreceipted allowance, cash-for-questions, hypocrisy, deceiptful behaviour. 

Take a look at this list and see what your MP claimed last year.  Note that the second home allowance was not claimed at all by some (a very few) MPs, and other allowances vary just as much.  £20k for "communications" expenses.  Chat lines don't cost that much...

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How can you spend £20k on communications in a year?

I suppose satalite phones from your yacht would mount up ...

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Simple soulution I have advocated for a long time.

Exec halls of residence close to the commons.  No second home allowance.

 

OR, second home allowance and the govt holds the freehold and so you cannot rpofit from the sale of the house aws the MP does not own it.

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I've never understood how they are given a second home allowance to BUY a second home. Fair enough pay for a hotel room, fair enough pay for them to rent a small flat if it's cheaper than a hotel, but why are they able to claim money in order to buy, improve and furnish an appreciating asset?

And how the guy with who claimed for an already redeemed mortgage is not up on a fraud charge is beyond me. You can be imprisoned for tax evasion (not paying enough to the treasury) but not for taking too much from the treasury!

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Originally posted by Rupert

How on earth can we have people running our lives who can't remember that they don't have a mortgage any more? I think I'd rather have someone on the scrounge than that stupid. Surely he cannot stand again after this?

Of course he knew he didn't have a mortgage ... not the sort of thing you forget is it ...

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I think this sums it all up quite nicely really:-

29 have been accused of spouse abuse

7 have been arrested for fraud

9 have been accused of writing bad cheques

17 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses

3 have done time for assault

71 cannot get a credit card

14 have been arrested on drug-related charges

8 have been arrested for shop-lifting

21 are currently defendants in lawsuits

84 have been arrested for drink driving in the last year

Which organisation is this?

It's the 635 members of the House of Commons.

But I guess we can add a few more to the list now

 



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Originally posted by Guest#260

Of course he knew he didn't have a mortgage ... not the sort of thing you forget is it ...

I suspect its probably fairly easy for the rich to forget that sort of thing: one's accountant back in the consituency pays the mortgage and one's parlimentiary secretary handles the expenses claims. If the one doesn't contact the other - well there you are... I mean, its not as if one would want to get one's hands dirty reading the accounts oneself is it.

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Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by Guest#260

Of course he knew he didn't have a mortgage ... not the sort of thing you forget is it ...

I suspect its probably fairly easy for the rich to forget that sort of thing: one's accountant back in the consituency pays the mortgage and one's parlimentiary secretary handles the expenses claims. If the one doesn't contact the other - well there you are... I mean, its not as if one would want to get one's hands dirty reading the accounts oneself is it.
 

Question time was a bit more livley than usual ...

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It was interesting how the Newspaper editor got an ovation after the opening round but by the end he was being heckled more than the politicians!

To be honest I thought Theresa May and Ming the merciless came across quite well and made some worhty comments and suggestions on improvements to the system, but Margeret Beckett!!!! I would ask "what was she thinking" but the answer is clearly "not a lot!".
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I've avoided this thread so far simply because I am so very angry.

I was going to justify my boat with it's ability to "swing the poll" and set it
down as a legitimate expense, indeed in real life I struggle to put it
through the business and we're in that sort of trade.

The fact is where I am currently, which is a business struggling for
survival with a staff that have had to take a pay cut, having to have made
almost a 40% cut in staff, whilst still collecting the VAT, Tax & N.I. that
supports these vermin, frankly I am incandescent with rage.

They and the Bankers they have emulated seem to have absolutely no
moral compass whatsoever it is absolutely outrageous what is going on in
the private sector. The very private sector that generates the wealth and
income to support the public sector excesses of which this is just another
sordid example.

I'm minded to write to the Queen and suggest Parliament is dissolved, a
caretaker coalition government formed from the few 'straight' Politicians
if they can be found from all Parties who have not been 'working' the
system.

This is such a tragedy, Britain was supposed to be the mother of
democracy, but here we all are virtually helpless to intervene an entire
nation deprived of trust in its elected representatives.

It really is a very serious problem.
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