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Gulfcoastbreeze ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 03 Apr 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 14 |
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There is a great account of a non-profit in New York City called Brooklyn Boatworks that teaches inner-city kids how to loft, build, and sail Optis here in the Winter issue of CY. What a fine idea!
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Gulfcoastbreeze ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 03 Apr 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 14 |
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Does anyone know of a program like this in the UK? I'd be interested in finding out.
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NickA ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 784 |
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Couldn't they teach them to make decent boats?
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m_liddell ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 583 |
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An oppie is basically a glorified box. A swift solo or something is going to be quite a bit more challenging and needs more materiel/space. |
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Villan ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Nov 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1768 |
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And with the added material comes extra cost, plus the amount of time making it and the skill needed to sail it is enormous!
Dont forget they are "Non Profit" so whatever they make has to be able to pay for itself, or cost very little ... £8000 ish ( If I am remembering correct ) is a LOT for a non profit organisation for inner city kids to pay out. When you first sailed, were you singlehanded, with the trapeze, in that much boat? I know you are meant to take people just out of their "comfort zone" when teaching them ... But that would be extreme! |
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Gulfcoastbreeze ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 03 Apr 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 14 |
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Yeah, these kids are about 10-12 years old. Excellent question, Villian. My first time on the water was in an aluminum jon boat at age three. Ya gotta walk before you can run...
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NickA ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 784 |
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Indeed oppies would be great if they'd stayed what they were supposed to be: cheap, simple, easy to sail, easy to make, basic boats for tots - to be quickly passed over in favour of a real boat once they'd learnt to sail. They were never supposed to be any good, just cheap and cheerful. Instead of which, due to the endless inpouring of lifeblood by various RYA type organisations, instead of having died a natural in favour of something better, the class is alive and well and a "competitive" new oppie costs £1700 (or more with the trimmings). Like em or not: under 14, want to race or get any training, ; gotta get an oppie. Don't want to knock these folk - but won't it be sad when they go out to race in their homemade boats and get beat by highly trained, 14yr old, richly parented brats sailing carbon. Swift solo ... erm evidently not. To be fair the optimist association recognise that things have gotten silly (http://www.optiworld.org/ioda-technical.html#ccheap), but RS are still selling £1700 oppies! |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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There's something slightly amusing about a page that lauds cheaper boats at the bottom but admonishes sailors not to buy cheap imitation Oppies at the top...
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Gulfcoastbreeze ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 03 Apr 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 14 |
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Here is a quote from page 39 of the winter '07 issue of Classic Yacht magazine online: "Interestingly, the original hulls were built in plywood, so we have official class plans, allowing these hulls to be measured and actively raced in the future." source: www.classicyachtmag.com NickA, it looks like these are original, and built by kids as intended.
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Gulfcoastbreeze ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 03 Apr 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 14 |
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Elaborate, please. |
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