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49erGBR735HSC 
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Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
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 Topic: Alto DinghyPosted: 29 Mar 07 at 8:22pm |
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What's the point of the Alto? Slower than a conventional 505 and even so, the 4000 is a good comparible assymetric to the 505 speed and performance wise. Seems to be dumbing the boat down a bit. I like the 505 because of the boat it is, if it wasn't a symetric it would lose all appeal to me. As it stands, the 505 is a High Performance symetric boat, convert it to assymetric and you get a medicore, over weight assymetric, plenty of room in the market for those.... Lozza was right on another thread, putting self-tackers etc onto a 505 will just ruin the boat and will be pretty crap compared to the original boat. |
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Medway Maniac
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Posted: 29 Mar 07 at 11:07pm |
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Twice as easy as a 505 and only 3% slower - sounds a reasonable deal to me. Not everyone wants to invest the time and effort to sail a 505 perfectly. In fact, looking round my club I'd say 90% of members are in that category.
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jamesint505
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Posted: 29 Mar 07 at 11:11pm |
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buy an rs400 if you don't want too sail a 5oh perfectly thats the whole flippin point of a 5oh.Its not meant to be easy its a high performance racing machine for gods sake!!!!!
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Medway Maniac
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Posted: 29 Mar 07 at 11:20pm |
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So if someone doesn't want a 505, they should buy an RS400? Eh? Of the two, I think I'd prefer an Alto to an RS400 - all that hiking - no thanks. And the Alto is not only faster than a 400, but I'd guess easier too. It's a new class, and as I see it one with a niche. |
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jamesint505
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Posted: 29 Mar 07 at 11:48pm |
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if someone doesn't want a 505 buy something else personally i wouldn't want an alto because at the end of the day its just gonna be another asymetric smod which doesn't require too much skill to sail.If thats what you want go for it.I agree that not everyone has the time/patience/bank balance/mentality/fitness/technical mindedness to sail a 50h too its potential and that isn't their fault.So go and buy a pretend 5oh "the alto" its just I won't.P.S. the 50h is my favourite boat ever!so i'm just biased !!!Keep your cherubs 12's 49ers etc if I could have any boat whatsoever give me a brand new all carbon van munster anyday!!!!and if I cant have one of them I'll go without!! unless you need a crew for your shiny new 14 |
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jamesint505
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Posted: 29 Mar 07 at 11:50pm |
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or even your volvo 70 now that would be a ride!!!
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jamesint505
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Posted: 29 Mar 07 at 11:52pm |
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too big for anything else you see
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BigFatStan
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Posted: 30 Mar 07 at 7:57am |
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Isn't the 505 a chopped Coronet? Surely that's a precedent?
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les5269
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Posted: 30 Mar 07 at 8:21am |
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Hey the 5tonner is good Jim! |
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49er 531 & 5000 5025 and a mirror(now gone to mirror heaven)!
Grafham water Sailing Club The greatest inland sailing in the country |
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lozza
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Posted: 30 Mar 07 at 9:27am |
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But the coronet was never a fully established class. Can't see the point of an alto, if you're going to upgrade an old boat, there are better ways of spending the money (big kite, new high aspect board) and still be relatively competative. Keeping the symetric would make the boat faster down wind and the adjustable rig would make it easier to depower. 7544 at the worlds was getting results in the 80's and all the owner had done was get a half decent set of sails with a 6m spinny. If you're going to fiddle with a boat, you normally try to make it better. Bit difficult to do this to a boat which is close to perfection (IMO) Alto Proper boat |
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