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limey
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Topic: does hiking kill your kneesPosted: 27 Mar 07 at 9:50pm |
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As an ex laser sailor who has had six knee operations (and i straight leg hiked) i can assure you that the forces subjected on the knee by hiking will eventually lead to its digeneration. My consultant was a leading surgeon who regularly dealt with Premiership football players and he advised me that no matter how strong the muscles around the knee ,the joint itself is not built to withstand the lateral and rotational forces caused by continuous hiking Also think it worth mentioning that "sitting in" almost made them worse !!
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andymck
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Posted: 27 Mar 07 at 11:36pm |
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Just a point about rotational forces in the knee, the knee is designed to cope with rotational forces. The force that we put through our knees while twisting and running/ jumping can be over ten times body weight. We dont get near that while hiking a dinghy. The forces are less, but are applied over a longer time so there may be an argument about viscoelasticity, having said that, I never heard of anyone doing their anterior cruciate while hiking, unlike football or skiing. The same can be said for the lateral forces. I must admit that the lateral forces going through my knees when I hike are pretty low, although I dont sail in waves very often. The movement from tensile, to compressive forces in deep flexion is a much more likely aetiology in the dinghy sailor. Deep flexion is a risk factor for meniscal damage. Hence my earlier comments. Exercise per se is not a predictor of knee degeneration e.g marathon runners are less likely to have problems compared to other athletes. Hence the aetiology of sailor's knee can't be compared to that of a footballer, unless you kick the boat after a bad tack. I am not even positive that the incidence of knee problems in sailors is greater than the population average. Although would be very interesting to find out. discuss....
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allanorton
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Posted: 28 Mar 07 at 10:55am |
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I'd say if you asked the likes of Scheidt, Ainslie, Goodison, Percy, Craig etc., if their knees have had it, they would reply no. This is probably because these blokes have their heads screwed on and do other sports/exercises to supplement their sailing (eg cycling, rowing, weights). I suspect they've spent more hours kiking in their boats than we will ever do, but are not considering golf just yet!
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Posted: 28 Mar 07 at 11:28am |
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40 years old That said I think the trapeze is far the better option as I age ... |
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Posted: 28 Mar 07 at 12:22pm |
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Been sailing most weekends and some, for 40 years, - Ents, Fireballs, OK, Ents again, Flying 15s, Miracle, (with the kids),Lasers, 600, 700, MPS and now Finn and loving it! The knees can still survive windy Nationals and 2 or 3 day meetings without problem. I must be doing something right!
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Rob.e
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Posted: 28 Mar 07 at 6:15pm |
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Sailed all my life, fanatical cyclist (in my yoof), swimmer, walker, 47 yrs old: knees totally f |
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Medway Maniac
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Posted: 28 Mar 07 at 6:38pm |
And the exercise was?
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mike ellis
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Posted: 28 Mar 07 at 7:50pm |
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im nearly 16, been sailing for ages but only really sailed regularly from 13-14 ive done two years in a feva and about 5 months in a laser and last weekend i went out on a laser 3000 and this week my knees have been making funny noises and twinging randomly when ive been walking around. conclusion, i havent been hiking long enough for my knees to hurt for more than a few minutes after the race and then its only tired muscles but whatever it was on that bloody 3000 has buggered my knees. Edited by mike ellis |
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Posted: 29 Mar 07 at 9:15am |
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Were you helming or crewing, cos if you were crewing shouldn't the trapeze be a welcome break for your knees, mind you my knees get sore from a marginal day when i am constantly in and out on the trapeze. |
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Posted: 29 Mar 07 at 11:55am |
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It does kill your knees - I am in the "adjustment" phase of my new toestraps still .. And last weekend they were slightly too loose, and right on the point where I was past my battens in my hikers, but not far enough to bend my legs and reduce the strain on my legs and bring the battens back in contact with the boat. They have been clicking for the last few days! Oh well, Slightly looser this weekend, see if that makes any difference. |
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