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craiggo
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Topic: Devotti Single HanderPosted: 02 Apr 09 at 10:32pm |
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My first reaction when I saw the boat was, it looks bloody awful, then when I first saw the images and videos of it sailing I started coming around to it, but having watched it all again I think it looks ugly and not very efficient.
The spinnaker aspect ratio is far to low and gives the boat a kind of retro look, after all kites havnt looked like that since the early days of higher performance planing dinghies a la ISOs. The low aspect ratio of the kite makes the rig look even further forward in relation to the hull and while not agreeing with GRFs technical reasoning on why this is bad, it does look pretty grim. I'd liken it to the assymetric disaster that is the Wayfarer World!!! To be honest if I was in the market for that kind of boat I'd be joining GRF in trying to get the frankenblaze sorted out, either that or getting LDC to tweak the Vareo rig so that it works upwind! at least they look good, and in my book if it looks right, its because it generally is!!!! |
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Smight at BBSC
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Posted: 02 Apr 09 at 8:45pm |
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I definitely prefer that set of sails on it as well ....
Looks like it has a serious kick out of the back of the gybes? Edited by Smight at BBSC |
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I luv Wight
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Posted: 02 Apr 09 at 8:07pm |
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Ok thanks - LOTS of tacking and gybing! (sten sailing it i guess, making it look easy)
It looks much better in the videos than at the dinghy show. |
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sten
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Posted: 02 Apr 09 at 2:01pm |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b5dDbzKVrU video of tacking and gybing at Palma
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Clean
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Posted: 02 Apr 09 at 1:06pm |
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As I'm new here, I didn't take the time to see that the tin foil hatters are boat builders too. You'd think I'd know better. As for comments that the boat should be longer, remember that the design brief includes "as easily car toppable as a laser". As for comments about the joy of sailing downwind without a kite, note that the brief was for a boat that would double digits downwind easily, make better VMG than the non-kite singlehanders, and not require the complicated, rolly and counterintuitive steering techniques that Laser sailors have developed to make a slow boat go pretty quickly to the leeward mark, or the pumping and ooching that Finn sailors have created to do the same thing. I got to Palma very skeptical - there have basically been zero commercially successful singlehanders since the Laser, and I felt that the D-One would have to be revolutionary to change that. Turns out that the boat didn't have to be revolutionary - the builder just had to have a vision and be committed to making it work, and I'm pretty optimistic that Luka knows what he's doing. Between the D-One, the Stealth, the Halo, and whatever other new non-trap skiffish singlehanders, this should be a fun niche. More reports on todays Sailing Anarchy front page, with a sh*tload of pics in the D-One thread - most of hot women. If you're not signed in, you can't see them. http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php? showtopic=86676 |
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Daniel Holman
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Posted: 02 Apr 09 at 12:10pm |
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Amen, brother. Its skilful, rewarding and dynamic. Most people's sailing highlight of the '96 games was real time downwind footage of a 3 way battle between ainslie, scheidt and blackburn in the lasers. 15kts breeze, nice chop. A lot of people have a prejudice that its just sit in the middle of the boat and point at the leeward mark, and I think that these kinda people are those who want to be dragged downwind by a big kite. Each to their own but a large part of this type of boat's attraction is the technique and dynamism required in sailing them upwind or down. Pretty much an artform, very atheletic and great to watch when done well. Speed apart, watching or sailing "high performance" boats seems a little bit mundane except when turning corners. Although I probably do it wrong..
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Merlinboy
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Posted: 01 Apr 09 at 6:13pm |
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I basically said i don't understand why they would change to a trapeze single handed asy boat, we already have two very good and successful versions in the market with the Musto Skiff and the 700. The market is crying out for a single hander hiker with a kite.
Then was told i had been collard by an April fool. |
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Smight at BBSC
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Posted: 01 Apr 09 at 5:59pm |
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I have to say I do enjoy sailing lasers. We had a laser gp event at the sailing club and it was fooking windy which led to a lot of hiking and a lot of fun....but i also enjoy screaming about with too much sail area so i'm happy what ever ![]() |
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Posted: 01 Apr 09 at 5:40pm |
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TBH I'm with Steve Cockrill on this. I have gained more enjoyment out of working an unstayed una rigged singelehander downwind in waves than I ever got from bashing about at high speed with as much rag as I can get on a boat. Slow boats upwind mean lots of tactical thinking and downwind...well watch Ben or Ed work a finn and you'll know what I mean...just amazing. In short you can bang on about capped masts, spinnies, wing wangs, bigger boards, pressure areas to your hearts content. What most people want is a fun, simple/low hassle boat which encourages fair racing be it OD or handicap. This discussion focuses on the 5%, the big commercials watch the 95%. The future of boats is refined versions of what we have now! |
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Posted: 01 Apr 09 at 3:33pm |
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So what was the post before you chopped it? |
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