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    Posted: 01 Apr 09 at 2:36pm

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LOL i know.  I am searching for some bollox on ebay now!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Apr 09 at 12:14pm

Originally posted by Merlinboy

Apparently its an April fools TT

At least TT is man enough to take the joke and not edit his post ... very poor form ...

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Originally posted by Rupert

Originally posted by Daniel Holman

Mx Ray certainly isn't laser speed upwind. Think topper and you'll be closer.

By all accounts the Stealth is only laser VMG in <8 and >15 kts DDW as well.

It really goes to show how good the Laser design actually was, that people are having trouble designing averagely easy boats to sail that will go faster, despite the Laser's mast and sail combo.

Its a basic horsepower problem. The laser is a deceptively long boat, and a decent semi displacement hull form that is good across the speed range that it does. (0-15kts, weighted very heavily towards 3.5kts, i.e laser upwind speed)

The rig is agricultural, but reprasents an agricutural take on what was then state of the art.

Everything had been well thought out, tweaked and simplified so that it offered decent performance on all points of sail in all winds.

There are no real breakthroughs in hull design for this (laser) speed range, any speed improvements come incrementally from weight reduction due to material improvements, or slight tweaking of the hull form, or modest increases in the efficiencies of the hull and rig packages.

The MX Ray is short, has a p*ss poor rig (noodle bendy), questionable ergonomics etc. Remember that for an assym to work well (conventionals too complex for s/h) the boat has to be proper quick, i.e Musto/700 at least to be effective at sailing angles for best DDW VMG. RS200 being a case in point of the onverse. The MX Ray is a quick little boat with the kite up on a broad reach, but pretty painful at most of the other stuff.

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Looks like an April Fool thing to me
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Apparently its an April fools TT
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Cheers Peaky, Can't believe i got done... b**tards



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Post Options Post Options   Quote robinft Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Apr 09 at 8:59am

My sources tell me that in the light of fairly overwhelming dislike of many D-One features criticised since it was launched to we the public, Mr Devoti has commissioned an urgent and comprehensive redesign:

  • Hull to be redrawn by Joachim Harrprecht
  • Solid wings to be replace by racks
  • Trapeze to replace hiking
  • Rig to be stayed

Hopefully this stillborn ugly duckling will be reborn as a swan.



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Apr 09 at 8:59am
Originally posted by Daniel Holman

Mx Ray certainly isn't laser speed upwind. Think topper and you'll be closer.

By all accounts the Stealth is only laser VMG in <8 and >15 kts DDW as well.

It really goes to show how good the Laser design actually was, that people are having trouble designing averagely easy boats to sail that will go faster, despite the Laser's mast and sail combo.

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