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Skiffman
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Topic: Devotti Single HanderPosted: 25 Mar 09 at 11:40am |
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have you seen the size of the bow on it, theres no danger of nosediving
that... anyway we were out in Palma last week and saw these out everyday, fair bit faster than the finns upwind. They do look quite odd though, it looks like theres just too much waterline width its looks about as wide as a 49er! The main is massive aswell its going to need alot of weight on the side to get it to semi-plane upwind. I think its a bit too much like a finn but then what do i know, i do not know why it does not look more like a skiff so it would go like one and have a t-foil rudder if they are going all out. |
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G.R.F.
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Posted: 25 Mar 09 at 11:29am |
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That upwind stuff just proves my point further, it's way too front loaded.
Imagine that in the sea in just half choppy stuff, it's so destined for multiple nose dives and that's just upwind. OK so off wind the kite will help keep the nose up a bit, but still, Why dont they just bring the whole shebang back a yard, think how much faster it would truck with all that wetted surface released. Edited by G.R.F. |
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Posted: 25 Mar 09 at 10:36am |
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I think it looks really good. Would love to have a go in one.
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sten
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Posted: 25 Mar 09 at 10:00am |
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no its half a meter smaller :) specially made for the Devoti-one
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sten
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Posted: 25 Mar 09 at 9:56am |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8WSY85YTQU Some video of upwind |
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Norbert
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Posted: 25 Mar 09 at 9:48am |
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There's another vid on the tube, sort've official presentation...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfsZttKpxB4 |
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Daniel Holman
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Posted: 25 Mar 09 at 9:32am |
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The basic architecture owes a bit to the finn, i.e the classic low, long boom which is what keeps the area low down and gap small, but also necessitates the mast being a long way forward. Unless you do some funny stuff with cockpit geometry, the toestrap and mainsheet ratchet takeoff generally have to be behind the dagger and this dominates the cockpit layout, from which the rig f/a position follows due to the necessary position of the foils. The position of the forward ends of the toestraps / ratchet are driven by the helm's f/a position when sailing upwind (generally slow, so boat at level trim for optimum lcg, helm fairly far forward.) The dagger position has to be forward of the toestrap/ratchet point, so the rig must be in a position that the clr and c of e are lined up relative to this, hence the "rig forward" look of most of these singlehanders. Where the D one isn't finn-like is that its a 15' ish dinghy that weighs 55kg. Unlike the finnosaurus, which has recently, in a hugely progressive move that will no doubt revolutionise the sailing experience, dropped its min hull weight from 119kg to 116kg. I must say I think that the D One's looks don't make my legs crumble, but its a ground up design by some clever people, has seen plenty of development, and I'd bet that a souped up blaze would struggle hard to live with it. |
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G.R.F.
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Posted: 25 Mar 09 at 9:03am |
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Is it just me or is there something very old fashionedly Finnlike about that
boat? Why is it the masts are always so far forward in relation to the hull length? Why has the mast not got wires on it to stop it flopping about? Seeing that convinces me even more that something better could be designed and built over here and based on the Blaze. |
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Posted: 25 Mar 09 at 8:51am |
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Is that a Musto kite you are using there Sten?
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Rupert
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Posted: 25 Mar 09 at 8:50am |
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Well, it looks better on the water than in the photos, but still not very pretty - functional, at least, though. Shame the film ended just when it was going to go upwind.
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