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    Posted: 22 Jan 07 at 8:53pm
Originally posted by steviemac


Could anyone recommend a sail in an rs600 somewhere in the southwest or would I have to go up country?


The class association owned demo 600 is currently situated at Weston Sc near southampton- still a bit of a treck i'm afraid!


The class is definatly having a resurgence lately with second hand prices about double what they a couple of years ago (you'll be lucky to find 'em for less than about £2k now) and attendence on the open circuit and nationals up on recent years.

As with any high performance boat sailing to handicap on restricted water is tough, but the grin factor of hooning round at speed usually means you don't care!! Arguably the 600 does better than the contender in the light stuff  where its lower weight and powerful rig powers up sooner.

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Thanks Mark,

Who could I speak to about sorting that out if I could make it to Southampton?

If I'm looking to buy second hand what should I look out for? Are there any changes before and after any sail numbers? Whats a good number to go for 600+, 700+, etc. Most seem to be about 650 - 750 in the 2k'ish mark. Is this about right?

Are there any questions I should make sure I ask?

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Stevie- either PM me or get in contact via http://www.rs-association.com/index.asp?fleet=RS600&sele ction=committee to arrange a test sail.

600s are generally very robust and don't have much to go wrong with them.

-Early boats had angel masts that were prone to snap at the sleave joint on the removable lower section. Most of these have been replaced by superspars that became standard from the mid 700 sail numbers onwards (i beleive).

-Early and late boats had the best build quality, those in the middle were produced in a rush when demand for the class soared.

Things to check for; wear in the daggerboard case (easy repair though), can the bottom mast section be seperated (for reefing), kicker u-bolt slackness- then all the usual signs of abuse!

Wouldn't reccomend any sail number in particular- some of the early boats are pristine, some on the late 9 hundred boats are sheds!!

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I'd get on the 600 yahoo group to arrange a sail with someone near you.

The build quality of the 600's is very good, the earlier boats being built by ovingtons. Even with the recents price rise i think you will still be able to find a bout around 2Kish. sail number 750 and below probably.

To be honest the hulls will all be pretty similar, its the rig and sail that is more important.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote steviemac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jan 07 at 8:30pm

Thanks Guys,

Looks like a plan. The youtube rs600 videos also give me a good idea of what it looks like.

I like the idea of "hooning round" (not sure what it means exactly but it sounds good!!). There are definately some boats around that look good vfm in and around that price which just about suits my budget as well which is a bit of a bonus!!

From it looks like there looks to be some form of championships in my neck of the woods in September in Torbay. Is this the nationals?? If so, it would be a great introduction for me to the nationals fleet and give me a season to get up to speed (or keep it upright at least for longer than half a leg!).

Thanks again!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote steviemac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jan 07 at 8:34pm

Sorry! just another question.

I was in contact with someone today selling a boat with wide wings but looking at the class rules it seems that I would need narrow wings as I'm over 76kgs.

How easy is it to swap? How much would it cost to do?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote owain Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jan 07 at 8:53pm

The wings simply unscrew and then slide out (worth checking they havent seized up though, on my old boat they were very stiff). Your best bet is to find someone who has narrow wings, but needs wides and offer to swap. I was in the weight category for wides, but i had narrows as i couldnt find any. if your just pracising, i doubt it will matter, but when you race, you will need 2 change. I may be wrong though.

Good luck sailing it, its a awesome boat, i loved sailing mine

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Richbower2663 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jan 07 at 1:27am

I swapped the wings on my boat from narrows (which I still have) to wide wings, and it is relatively easy so long as you have:

A screwdriver to remove the 4 screws from the wings that hold them to ther plastic mounting blocks fore and aft,

A spanner to undo the nuts on the 4 u-bolts that hold the wings to the Gunwhales

A block of wood/a piece of old carpet, generally anything that will prevent impact marks on the wing and spread the force across it a little more to place on the wing, a rubber mallet to hit the block of wood with,

A friend to sit on the boat to stop it from moving while you hit either ends on the wings with alternate strokes of the mallet so that they come off square.

So long as you know this and have the right tools to hand it shouldn't take too long.

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote fizzicist Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jan 07 at 11:51am
Originally posted by Marine Boy

 The RS300 (IMHO) is a (relatively) difficult boat to master but without massive benefit of speed once you have it cracked (cost/benefit).    

Go and have a look at what won the speed freaks competition this year and look at the speed

The 300 is not slow by any stretch of the imagination. I'd say any 14 foot sitting out dinghy that can plane upwind at 8-10 knots is worth a look. On a small shifty water it's probably as quick as you feasably can go.

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Originally posted by fizzicist

Go and have a look at what won the speed freaks competition this year and look at the speed


I'm a big 300 fan and find that speed quite preposterous. There's no way I'd believe that speed without a full GPS trace to convince me. Recorded as a max its just got to be a glitch.
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