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    Posted: 31 Jan 05 at 10:18pm

Dr C.

We now have 6 races at the Grafam cat open.  I did not know about this, but apologies on whom ever did it wrong's behalf.  I am sure it was a mistake that will never happen again at the Cat open.  I've never heard of this happening before at Grafham, we usually get it right.  Come to the next Cat open and I will buy you a beer to make up for it.

 

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I have found that at Grafham it pays to ignore the flags.

At a cat regatta a couple of years ago, a boat or two were over the line. Someone waved the General recall flag - then put up the individual recall flag.
Half the fleet stopped - but had to carry on. They refused to bin the race. basically a farce.
That is also the result of only programming 4 races over a weekend with no room for cancelled races, when even a tricky tidal venue can manage 5 or 6 over the same time period.

There is an excuse for club racing - but when you travel across the country and pays yer money, you expect a hint of professionalism.
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Hi Hurricane,

I think that, in practice, and wrongly, as you have said, we all set our watches to the sound signals. Often, particularly in club racing, when the start line is not far from the shore and the launching area, some people don't even launch until the 'warning signal' and prior to that they are messing about with their boats on the shore, they wait for the sound signal with their watches on zero, or countdown, and then just hit the button on the sound signal.

In some clubs, like my own, probably 75% of club members who act as race officers, haven't got a clue about the flags and sound signals and their sequences. It became such a problem that the club invested in a timing device fitted to the hooter that automatically sounds at 5,4,1,0 (see www.autohoot.com). Even then, we are lucky to get the flags going up and down in the right order.  With this 'automatic' system, it is still easy to raise a flag at the wrong time purely through the inexperience of the race officer.  Again, like you say, most people just work off the sound signals, even though it is wrong.  The good thing with the 'automatic' sound signals is that they are absolutely accurate so everyone is happy.

I think that many club sailors, at small clubs, who only do duties a couple of times a year, and who don't race themselves (and particularly windsurfers who have no interest in dinghy racing anyway and have been, in my opinion, wrongly allocated race officer duties for dinghy racing), struggle with the whole business of setting courses, starting races and using the equipment available. The funny thing is that, often, they never get any better, they do it so infrequently that they forget, or they never make any effort to learn in the first place until they turn up at the club on the day, and then they complain that nobody has shown them what to do.

This is another topic in itself i.e. allocation of duties, race officer training, 'no duty' memberships, etc., etc.  The consequence of all this is that it is always the same small group of people who are detailed to run the various open meetings throughout the year.

Ian  (Yorkshire Dales S.C.)



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at my club when we have inside starts (meaning our start line is among alot of moorings!) it is somtimes imposible to see the flags so we use the sound signals most of the time anyway!

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after a recent discussion i was part of, how many people will admit to breaking the rules and setting their watches on the sounds rather than the flag signals. I for one will admit i used to  while club racing as it was almost impossible to see the flags!! 

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