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    Posted: 15 Jan 07 at 10:20am
Of corse not but remeber that one laser sailor may have spent all that money on a genuine sail and another buys a cheaper copy (which is probably better quality)  The class rules are very strict, you know what ypur getting into when you buy a laser!!!  Anyway that wasnt my main point, my point is that if your unlucky £650 laser can be a bad boat, bast step, cockpit floor problems etc.  and the chances of a £650 laser having a great sail are poor, so buying a new sail is going to be pricey
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I couldn't agree with your points about older Lasers more, Merlinboy. I just can't see the sense in clubs preventing their members from using copy sails for club racing...

However, despite some of the views expressed in this thread I don't think it's impossible to have fun in a Laser in a good blow... 12-15knots downwind isn't impossible and it requires more skill than some people would give credit for!
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Originally posted by Merlinboy

Am i not right in thinking that £650 for a laser is going to be an old dog.  Lets also reflect on a previous thread regarding laser sails, bearing in mind he is on a budget, sail at £400 for an arse flannel is rubbish.  Rooster sails are a good training sail, but my club wouldnt allow them for racing. 


Dunno. One bought for the equivalent of 500 squid beat two of the current Masters world champs in our Masters title, and beat the previous year's world champ until the drop came in (the former champ had a better drop). Two of these guys are very competitive against Mr Rooster (which is why they are all world Masters champs). You can beat Blackburn in races in an older university owned Laser; the boat's just not that important most of the time.
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Generally a 25 year old laser (£650 worth) if used for racing is gonna be floppy heavy, not like a new laser which SHOULD be stiff and lighter.  Therefore the boat does matter.  Granted the nut at the end of the tiller is more important, but unless your lucky £650 for a laser aint gonna buy you a great boat
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I generally wouldnt be using it for racing any way, only when its too windy for the 14
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Laser it is then
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I hadent considered that, i have windsurfed before but i am by no means competant at it, i will have to take that into consideration
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Can it get to windy for a 14 ?
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I loved windsurfing, but could gybe at all i had to fall in and swim bored round lol.
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I windsurfed to MB and tt's standard.

It's a great option when ther's too much wind for a boat. If you have the balance for a 14 ( I assume you mean International rather than Topper or Skipper) then you'll find the crossover easy enough and will already have a good idea how the rig works. Windsurfing kit drops its value like a stone so you should be able to get fairly modern stuff for your money. 
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