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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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This may be pointing out the obvious but...
The whole point of the Laser is that it is a strict one design, crappy sail and all! I do believe Laser are missing a trick here though, if they dropped the price of the sails more people would buy 'genuine' sails as opposed to sending money to Rooster and the like. I did hear somehwre that your average Laser sail costs around £15 to pruduce (they are mass cut and glued in the far east then shipped to the relevant countries for stiching). There are a lot of clubs now that have a local variation to class rules allowing you to sail with a 'pattern' sail. As for a mylar main, I am no sail designer but I do know that mylar sails and unstayed rigs do not mix. Paul Edited by jeffers |
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Iain C ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1113 |
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Whilst they're at it stick a sensible rudder on it too... |
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RS700 GBR922 "Wirespeed"
Fireball GBR14474 "Eleven Parsecs" Enterprise GBR21970 Bavaria 32 GBR4755L "Adastra" |
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mike ellis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339 |
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followed by some pics of some dismasted lasers with an extra piece of cloth out the front |
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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English Dave - so long as you don't want to race it, you can put any rig on it you want - there have been some great pics of asymmetric Lasers on this forum. If you do want to race, I guess you have to either use the kit provided or buy a different boat. Or take it up with the Laser class?
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Black no sugar ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 04 Location: Somewhere between Brighton and Lancing Online Status: Offline Posts: 3941 |
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You do?!? That's an exception on this forum!
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FireballNeil ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 654 |
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Hey the Pico sport has a mylar sail! It looks like a thoroughbred racer now!
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mike ellis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339 |
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yes, very nice indeed! not sure id want a mylar main though. you can read the soft sail well and i think. |
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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Prince Buster ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 15 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1146 |
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Dacron sail and carbon spars would be very nice! Edited by Prince Buster |
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international moth - "what what?"
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English Dave ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Aug 06 Location: Northern Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 682 |
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I'm not the biggest fan of the Laser XD. When Bruce Kirby invented the thing along with the wheel and sliced bread it was a nice boat. Car toppable and simple to rig and sail. And I know that Laser sailors have been working with the cat's cradle that was the kicking strap to get extra purchase a decade before the XD pack was introduced. But the fact remains, putting that amount of tension throuch a dacron sail will deform it in no time. And the sail is the thick end of £400! Laser have kept the provision of sails very much in-house to keep the strict one design (and also prevent others producing a sail at half price). But I wonder whether they have given any thought to updating the sail design. It's the only "race" boat in the range without a mylar mainsail (ignore the Pico and Funsail). I'm not suggesting that the cut needs to be altered. But the sail could be made lighter and more durable for very little effort - reinforcing the luff so that it could withstand the tension better - ditto the leach. Or make the whole thing out of reinforced mylar. OK, this might make the price rise by £100 but at least the sail might last a number of seasons. It would be difficult to put a fully battened sail an the simple aluminum mast and I'm not asking for a complete rig redesign. But the most complex part of the Laser sail is the batten pockets. So why charge £400 for a dacron bedhsheet? Answers on an electronic postcard please. |
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