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3793 
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 Topic: Lasers & Radials at your club ...Posted: 21 Nov 06 at 8:26pm |
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If I still sailed dinghys alot I would. The problem with Saltash is I live there so its so convinent, I could drive for a good 30 mins and go to Torpoint or pay extortionate prices and probally not even get a space at one of the Plymouth clubs. Im kinda stuck for dinghy sailing! Other wise thats exactly what I would do. |
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mike ellis
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2 seasons as in 2 sailing seasons as in 2 years doug. Edited by mike ellis |
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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Posted: 21 Nov 06 at 12:40pm |
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As many seasons as that?!!! 
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mike ellis
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i am sailing a laser at the moment for the fleet sizes, so i can get better at racing but as soon as i get bored of it (give it 2 seasons) im going to get something more interesting, theres just not enough bits of string on a laser.
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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3793
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At are club they put them in a fleet together but saying that there are only about 2 radials. It annoys me so much (sorry im gona get loads of hate for this) how everybody sails lasers. At my club the only two boats worth sailing are Lasers or Laser 2s. The slow handicap class is taken up by young kids sailing mirros and toppers which is great and defiantly were i learnt how to race. The main handicap fleet is then crap, a Europe, N12, Enterprise and some custom build thing. The only reason people sail Laser 2s is beacuse the club rent them at fairly reasonble prices however the boats are crap. I don't get hte big thing about Lasers I've sailed one and I didn't like it. I know you can pick them up really cheeply and get racing but I persoanlly would save up and get somthing a little more intressting. Sorry all laser sailors out there.
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mike ellis
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at my club you get entered for the series once and then in each race you have your corredted time given on whatever you were sailing that day. however you get entered twice if some of the classes you sailed were in fast handicap (<1154) and some in slow (>1155). i think this encourages people to try different boats to see what they are like. i have been entered for one series in a feva, a topper, a laser 4.7 and a pico so using this we would enter people who sailed full rigs and radials once for the series. people who sailed 4.7s and radials would be in a bit of a problem though because they would have 2 entries for the series and lots of DNCs. Edited by mike ellis |
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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Thanks for all the input. We have decided to run all the Lasers of the same start and score two sets of results: Lasers & Radials. We have also agreed to allow Lasers to change down to Radials but their score will still count in the Laser fleet. We hope this will encourage more youth and women to race the Radial. Rick |
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CT249
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It's clearly against the spirit of the Laser class to allow people to swap rigs between big rig and Radial, as far as I can see. It gives the advantage to people who spend more cash. That's not what Lasers are about.
You do become a better high-wind Radialist by sailing big rigs, but you can do that in training, instead of getting an advantage in club racing. And if you're training hard in an average fleet, depending on your weight you may be better off using Radial in light wind, and big rig in strong wind. That brings you back down in the pack and forces you to really work to win. |
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nathan
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At my club there is a laser class start, and the radials are let off on the 1 minute gun, and their finishing positions taken over the water. I think the laser/laser radial handicap allows for approx~ 1min30secs a hour difference. Giving the radials a 1min headstart is fairly arbitory. Radials rarely win, but that is largely down to the standard of the full rig sailors being higher, good radial sailors have done well in the past. It makes finishing easier as the race officer writes the results in a first past the post style. |
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Yeah ... think of all the other sports they may go on to if they have a bad experience... many people using the Radial rig are new to sailing and/or helming and I get really fed up with people chipping at them to use a full rig in some sort of macho display when they clearly could not cope if the wind got up ... one of the most important things you can teach a new sailor is to know your limits. That's why we should encourage the Radial fleet by not burying them in the standard Laser fleet ... Rick Rick |
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