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Laser 28 - Excellent example of this great design Hamble le rice |
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English Dave ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Aug 06 Location: Northern Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 682 |
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I worry that the immense popularity of the Laser worldwide will never let other single handers get a look-in. It's a fine boat and its 4.7 and Radial options give opportunities to lighter sailors. But I it now a self perpetuating class? I mean, do peole buy them because they seriously rate them as a boat or because there is always a healthy fleet at any club you care to mention - and thus good club racing. The XD pack is now pushing spars and sails way way beyond their original brief. This is good for Laser as I suspect that the spares market shows more profit than the boat building. But if the Laser was lauched today, would it still have the same impact? |
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Interesting point - I believe many people don't sail their first choice boat in favour of local fleet racing. It all depends what you value most - the sailing through the water experience or the fleet racing... Rick |
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Rob.e ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Oct 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 545 |
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No way would the Laser succeed today as a new class! It came out as the right boat at the right time- light, exciting, simple, and giving good close racing, but now as a 30something year old design I think the only reasons most people buy them are 1: they think they have a chance to get in a squad or go to the olympics, or 2: they know they can buy one easily locally, and sell it equally easily at whatever price range suits them, and there will almost certainly be someone else that sails one nearby. IMHO the Laser is possibly the most horrible boat I have ever owned, and I actually gave up sailing for a couple of years after owning one, I hated it so much, but even I have considered buying one again in my desperation for class racing. (Fortunately I found out there wasn't actually much around here, and got a decent boat instead |
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m_liddell ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 583 |
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I like the laser. Sure, it wouldn't do so well if it was released now because the design would be 30 years out of date!
It is a great improver boat because it will punish you if you screw up with trim, gybing etc. but is still easy to sail. You don't have to be built like a giant to sail it, there are 3 rigs and it isn't too heavy so it responds well to kinetics downwind. It isn't a boat I wanted to stay in though - skiffs with asymmetrics, trapezes are more fun ![]() Edited by m_liddell |
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FireballNeil ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 654 |
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[QUOTE:OFFSHORETIGER] and the scrapheap challenge boat [/QUOTE] Thats a cherub then! Edited by FireballNeil |
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FireballNeil ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 654 |
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Ooops! double post! Edited by FireballNeil |
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Lukepiewalker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1341 |
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Did someone describe a 470 as slow..... I wouldn't call them slow...
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m_liddell ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 583 |
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Thats a cherub then! [/QUOTE]Ha ha! pwned. |
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tgruitt ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Dec 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2479 |
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Needs to sail more...
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mike ellis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339 |
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you have to admit, the guy has a point. especialy as the original specification was just give them so carbon and some sail cloth
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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