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    Posted: 15 Nov 06 at 10:46am

I'm not a solicitor - my knowledge of the law comes as an electronic engineer who always mindful of liability. My shoulders are pure teflon, steeply sloped and I am keen to keep them this way.

I have a feeling that the RYA or ISAF has something to say about racing. If you are an RYA registered club then there is a stipulation as to the provision of rescue craft for an event. Certainly, at BYC if there are no rescue crews available, racing is cancelled. I beleive that we have to observe a certain ratio of rescue boats to competitors. All our rescue crews are have powerboat tickets, most have safety badges as well. If it isn't an RYA stipulation it will be a condition of our insurance. We are a coastal club facing NE with the prevailing wind offshore so we perhaps are in a different circumstances to others. Dunno.

If you launch your dinghy in 40 knots I would question whether any insurer would feel obliged to cough up.

Any fool can set to sea. It takes a real sailor to know when to stay ashore.

 



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Sorry, second paragraph went a bit wrong. If you insert "at BYC" after the "Certainly" bit it makes more sense.

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thats what the edit button's for

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Thanks fc. Suitably enlightened.
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Originally posted by ed490

Who/what is classed as "the club" in this case, and who should be informing the sailors? The race committee? The club committee? The safety boat drivers?

As mentioned earlier, surely "the club" includes you, if you are a member..

Yes, being on the race committee that does include me and I treat it very seriously.  I am one of the most relied upon to make the call which is a shame because I like the fresh days.  But safety must come first.

Re quote from before.  An extract from our race instructions.

A12.      Wind Limit and Operational Procedures

KCC racing will be abandoned or delayed if the wind is considered to be exceeding 22.5 knots either on average or if there are significant and frequent gusts above this figure. Prior to the Race Briefing conclusion, this decision rests with the Race Secretary. If the Race Secretary is not present, this decision rests with the Assistant Race Secretary. If neither is present, the decision rests with the Officer of the Day. After the Race Briefing, this decision rests with the Race Committee Vessel Boat Captain. Not withstanding this, all Skippers and Crews are reminded of Rule 4 (Decision to Race).  

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Originally posted by English Dave

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If you launch your dinghy in 40 knots I would question whether any insurer would feel obliged to cough up.


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Windguru is predicting 34 knts at Ballyholme this weekend. Fancy another go Jamie?
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If you lend me your hurri Dave, I will give it a go.

Better get Andy to line up a new mast though,

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It's OK. I've got 2.

It's an old boat and was originally built with stiff mast. Along the way someone upgraded to soft mast but kept the original. I have now put stiff mast back on boat to get more power.

Even if I took you up on your offer I suspect they'll cancel the ferries so how are you going to get here? On your Hurri or Tornado?

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote tornado435 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Nov 06 at 3:50pm

We did suggest at the last Euros at Ballyholme that a long distance race to the mainland and back would be good. What is the wind direction. Nice two sail reach there and back. Big jib of course, none of these little SX hankies.

For therecord I broke both stiff and light masts in my hurricane days. It's just a knack I've got.

 

P.s. if any of the boys over there are looking for a green hurricane, I know of one for sale  

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