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    Posted: 08 Nov 06 at 8:02pm
I've made the move from cherub to 29er.
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i know that there are pushy parents but there are very few in the 29er compared to other classes. I only came out of the 29er this year and I was the oldest being 18 (but still a youth), even I sometimes felt old when i was always the one going to the bar to buy drinks! There are alot of sailors that drive themeselves to events and training its only the younger ones that obviously can't.

In other contries the 29er is a much smaller youth class its mainly in GBR that it is considered a youth class. Especially the forign teams at the worlds most are over 19. Its a shame because it is an awesome boat.

What do people consider light weight? The optimum weight for a 29er is between 115-135kg and ideally 125kg, with a heavier crew than helm. Optimum 49er weight is only 148kg.

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I can see you as a trolley-dolly on that circuit, Doug. Sequinned thong... (no, no, I won't go there...)

But yeah, why not a Masters (read: slow, old folks) circuit for 29'ers? Works for the Lasers, and how many boats do you need for a fun open? Half a dozen like-minded people up, I'd say.

 

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Originally posted by Iain C

So now if it becomes the womens olympic double handed skiff, sailed in theory by youngish women of drinking age...that could be quite a social scene!



Sounds like a damn good circuit to me! 
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Originally posted by Guest#260

I don't think it's the youth sailors that are the problem more the parents that trail around after them ...

When I were a lad my dad used to drop me off then go off fishing ... once I had to park my Topper outside the club gates as they were locking up - he'd been delayed betting back in from the boat.

Did me a lot of good though ...

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I agree. I think the squaddy parents should let their 'little angels' get on with things and learn some life skills by themselves.
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I don't think it's the youth sailors that are the problem more the parents that trail around after them ...

When I were a lad my dad used to drop me off then go off fishing ... once I had to park my Topper outside the club gates as they were locking up - he'd been delayed betting back in from the boat.

Did me a lot of good though ...

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Iain C Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Nov 06 at 5:05pm

I'd heard Ovi were quite dissapointed that it is predominantly sailed by youths, primarily for the social reasons.  Now I am aware that there are a lot of youths reading this so no offence guys...I wish I'd had a design around like the 29er when I was younger!

But thinking, people moan about the "social" side as it's primarily sailed by youths who technically may not be old enough to drink following adoption by the RYA.  So now if it becomes the womens olympic double handed skiff, sailed in theory by youngish women of drinking age...that could be quite a social scene!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jack Sparrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Nov 06 at 4:56pm
Design, yes maybe, i.e for lightweights, but over here it was defiantly sold to me by Dave Hall as a boat that was looking to have a mix of ages in the fleet. As a caveat, this was before they had secured youth status.

If I remember right some of the early events did seem to have a better mix. So maybe it is just the RYA involvement that has scuppered the mixed age fleet. RYA, a double edged sword me thinks.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote CT249 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Nov 06 at 4:45pm
Perhaps the reason the 29er is seen as a Youth boat is because it was specifically designed as a Youth boat?

That's not to say other people can't sail it, of course, but the design purpose and marketing were Youth oriented from the start.
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I've not sailed the 29er much and it's tended to be light winds but I've normally struggled to get enough power out of it to sit on the side so ended up laying on the deck. I'm not particularly heavy - around 12 stone - and was sailing with light crews. Admittedly I wasn't trying to get maximum power out of the rig as they were inexperienced crews but I would imagine a lot of adults just wouldn't be able to do much other than sit in the bottom of the boat unless it was really windy.
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