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combat wombat ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 345 |
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Or don't drive that far and come to King George SC (Chingford),
friendly and with some proper boats to sail against. Fair enough
its shifty as hell in an easterly but theres more at KGSC than just
MRX's.
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Offshoretiger ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Jan 05 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 179 |
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But thats a shifty horrible pond as well, just a bit bigger And when the 'tide' is out you are sailing in the bottom of a wok |
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Offshoretiger ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Jan 05 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 179 |
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Get really good at roll tacks.
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Is that Welsh Harp by the North Circular?
Two fundamentals to remember. 1) Sail where there is wind, and sometimes that might mean NOT taking a direct line to the next mark espcially if the route is in the lee of a bunch of trees. 2)Take the shift thats taking you closest to the mark, very often you can get all involved in tacking battles and totally miss the key, which is getting round the course by the shortest route. Ponds tend to get fast Oscillating shifts, they never last long and chances are you can tack from one header straight into another, so be deliberate with each decision, the question you ask, is tacking off going to get me to the mark any quicker and if the answer is no, then dont tack. Oh and watch and remember, it may seem random to you now, but ponds have their own wind pattern, it just takes a while to pick up on it, but when you do they are easier to work than open water, especially the tide bit. |
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DiscoBall ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 03 Jan 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 305 |
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That's easy - the trees don't even go all the way round! Should try Olton Mere in Birmingham .....
Tack when you flap is a good point - but as you'll probably be sailing in light airs at well under hull speed then pressure is king. Sail to stay in areas of more pressure - even if it means sailing on less than ideal shifts - to keep the boats momentum and apparent going all the time. At Olton when there was a broad reach set close to leeward of the trees it could pay to round the windward mark and immediately roll gybe away 90 degrees to the rhumb line and use your momentum to carry you out of the calm patch and into the breeze in the centre of the lake. Then gybe back and head to the next mark on a much tighter angle while the boats under the trees were parked... Tim :) |
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Ruaridh1987 ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Sep 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1 |
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The best advice i can give is to keep it simple. if there looks like theres wind on the right, go right and play the shifts. wind on the left, go left and play the shifts. if your not sure go up the middle and play the shifts.
In my opinion playing the shifts right is the most important thing to get right as the lake is so small and therefore the beat will be short and catching the right shifts will give you that small advantage which can ultimately lead to big gains. I ould personally forget about using compasses etc which you might use to assess shifts on open water and just take the tack which means you are pointing closest to the mark. In other words 'tack when you flap'. |
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bustinben ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 15 Oct 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 288 |
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Let me start by saying that I'm a sea sailor. I grew up and learnt my racing in large expanses of water with wind patterns that you could work out, and sometimes some nice tide in the mix. Problem I've got now is that I'm sailing here: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=wembley+uk&a mp;ie=UTF8&z=15&ll=51.569788,-0.24745&spn=0.0213 66,0.055017&t=k&om=1 ..which as you can see is NOT the sea. The problem I find is that the place is totally unpredictable, especially in easterlies. The wind can be blowing in two totally different directions on different parts of the water, windshifts appear to be very frequent and totally random, etc etc etc. So, I was wondering if any of you well practised and pro "shifty pond" sailors had any pointers on how you are supposed to regularly win races in these kind of conditions. Ta ;) |
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