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    Posted: 18 Jan 05 at 6:24am

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They should have left the rules alone, there's about a 100 years of refinement thrown away for the sake of something "simpler".  Its actually a case of dumbing down and clearly leaves a lot unsaid, or am I being a grumpy old man?
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22 INTERFERING WITH ANOTHER BOAT

22.1 If reasonably possible, a boat not racing shall not interfere with a boat

that is racing.

22.2 A boat shall not change course if her only purpose is to interfere

with a boat making a penalty turn or one on another leg or lap of the course.

 

There is, however, no definition of what "interfere" means. Is luffing an overtaking boat to keep clear air "interference" or is it normal tactics? I can't imagine calling starboard (between boats racing) is "interference". So what is and is not "interference"? I'm not at all sure what this change means. I suspect we will have to wait for some cases.



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Are you sure, and if so I think this ia quite a radical change in the rules?  I sail on a reservior and so a great deal of lapping takes place. In handicap racing its a race aginst time so if you can slow the faster boats it's good and in pursuit racing a fast boat might have to lap a Topper or Cadet 3 or 4 times to win.  I always thought it was their prerogative?

And then there is the question of what should happen at marks, should a starboard tacker give room for a 49er coming in on port - it could get confusing?

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redback, the answer is no, it may be between the same two marks but because it is a different lap it is counted as a different leg of the whole course.  To be honest if someone is being lapped it is better for both of you to let the quicker boat past sooner rather than later, as trying to slow the other person down is not going to get you round the race course any faster. 

John, sounds like he is just throwing toys out of his pram, at least you beat him on the water. 

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This was perhaps the most irritating, when I got ashore I went to see him and offered to shake his hand and said what happens on the water stays on the water. He just said he didn't want to talk to me about it and walked away. I had to do a long slow count to 10 to stop myself doing something I might have regretted! 
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I'm glad it didn't happen to me I'd be livid, but it does bring up another question.  Can I luff (or interfere) with somebody who is on the same leg as me but on a different lap?
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Perhaps a quiet word about fair sailing is needed then, or ask sailing committee to put an article in club newsletter..
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The OOD spotted him bearing away and missing the mark out.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Ian S Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 05 at 12:30pm

I would have thought you would have problems claiming the different leg of course rule unless you could prove that the boat in question knew they had a missed a mark out - in this case as the guy waited for you I think it's safe to assume he was fully aware of what he was doing.

As for fair sailing, well, this appears to be a deliberate attempt to interfere with your race and prejuduce your result, hence should be counted as a none discardable dsq I believe.

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