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    Posted: 02 Oct 06 at 7:04pm

The RS500 will be cramped.  it's only a bit larger than a laser 2 / 3000, more of a dad and a lad boat surely. 

The sole B14 owner at our place found it a scream up and down the wind but couldn't keep the nose down on club race reaching legs (technique perhaps?) it kept bearing off of its own and he stopped sailing it.  But they do look great.

4000 I'd say.  Fast and cheap - and with a wire instead of the B14's huge wings can get closer to the bouys too!!!
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I really don't get why there is such a negative vibe regarding the RS 500,
it way bigger than a laser 3000.

If I thought any of the doubters had the first idea, I'd be really worried by
now.

Hoping mine shows up before it gets too cold.

Then at least you'll get a considered opinion.

We'll be racing against 470's that suddenly seem to be gathering in ever
increasing numbers at our club, so it should be interesting.

I based my decision incidently on a crew weight of around 140 kgs, both
fairly fit and competitive.
I wanted a retracting centre board and a modern easy assym rig with a
single wire so light wind single handing might still be feasible.
Something like my 3000 only a bit less sticky in the light stuff.

Nothing else really fits the bill. The 29er is clearly an inland kids boat, the
59 a coffin dodger with no wire and the only other thing is made in
plastic and weighs a ton
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He's back ...

BTW ... 29er is an excellent boat to sail on the sea. Sarah & I had one for a year and really enjoyed it.

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i would agree, the 29er does go well, the only issue i had with it was my crew (brother) and the fact that the sails were a bit small for our liking.
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Originally posted by combat wombat

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I'd say bite the bullet and go straight for the 49er.



Then spend 2 seasons learning to swim, and making regular claims on insurance for broken masts...

It has to be the B14.  Stop whining about having to do work (ie no self tacker and bagging the kite) and get one! 

PS I've never seen a Fireball holding onto us upwind. 

We haven't broken a mast or made any regular claims on our insurance let alone had any big ones. As for swimming, reckon that any true High Performance boat does have a bit of a learning curve. Reckon the 5000 is harder work than the B14 strength wise and the 49er is more effort athletically and agilitywise than the 5000.
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the 29er is an awesome boat to sail on the sea especially in big waves and wind. They are much nicer to sail on the sea than inland as with most high performance boats. 140kgs in an RS500 is that not a bit to much?
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Originally posted by jbungener

I am looking for a skiff to go sailing with my wife. I have done my share of swimming but she is still learning the ropes. We weigh in at a combined 160Kg (350lbs)

Reckon 160kg will also be too heavy for the RS500 and 29er....



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Originally posted by 29er397

i would agree, the 29er does go well, the only issue i had with it was my crew (brother) and the fact that the sails were a bit small for our liking.

I constantly amazed at the performance of the 29er with such small sails.
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Originally posted by m_liddell

I constantly amazed at the performance of the 29er with such small sails.



Im not saying it has bad performance, just that i prefer a bit more grunt and we just like to feel properly powered up before it gets to a top F3. also i am not a big fan of the hiking idea!


 
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Originally posted by NickA


The sole B14 owner at our place found it a scream up and down the wind but couldn't keep the nose down on club race reaching legs (technique perhaps?) it kept bearing off of its own and he stopped sailing it.  But they do look great.


The problem is that the kite is too full, its impossible to reach with.  Designed to sail extremely deep only, but you can get reaching kites for them.  30 sq/m for a fractional kite, I reckon it must be the biggest fractional dinghy kite around (or is the 5k fractional?)
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