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    Posted: 07 Jan 09 at 12:05am

You haven`t mentioned that you have test sailed a 300 in this OR the other thread that you have on the 300!.

Have you test sailed one yet?

I would suggest that you DO a test sail before you go out & buy a 300 OR any other boat for that matter!,

A brand new boat is rather a lot of money to spend particualy when money is short ( ref your other thread ) & there are second hand boats around.

 

 

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Yeah I agree I don’t think that I would buy a brand spanker as the new ones are no quicker then the old ones. Although to be fair to LDC they are good value for money. With regards to rig choice I have owned a 300 for over 3 years and weighing 70kg  at 6ft when I bought her (a B rig) I really struggled in the heavy stuff. On the sea the first two nationals, Filey and Loe the waves were pretty big, I struggled with the big rig in those conditions, if it had been flat I think I would of been okay but all those hills does make it a lot harder to keep the power on like the bigger boys can. I was very tempted to buy an A rig for her but never had the cash.

The learning curve is pretty steep especially coming from a boat like the fever but it will do you a lot of good, you can sail pretty much anything once you can master a 300.

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Sorry but I can not help but think that at 60 Kgs there are boats much better suited to your bodyweight than the RS 300 !
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I'd have to agree with Jon.

Sailing the Radial on the sea occasionally I felt overpowered in a F5 even as I do weigh more than you do.

Not only is it stress on your body, back, neck, knees etc etc, it won't do you much good over time if you can't flatten the bugger.

Listen Feva Sailor to what is been said, test sail the thing then decide for yourself. (Or just start a new thread on a totally different boat over the other side!!)

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While I agree that Feva Sailor is on the light side for a 300 I take issue with 2 things:

1.  The Radial Comparison.  The hiking position and posture is completely different and much more comfortable.  The 300 is also a wide boat and therefore sitting on the edge I would estimate more righting moment than a fully hiked radial (yes of course there is more heeling moment too - but that is very controllable as others have posted.

2.  It depends on what you want to achieve with the boat.  win a Nats - not for you.  Laugh/Scare/Enjoy yourself silly then welcome aboard.

But Feva Sailor you must try one.  Once you have you will never look back!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote feva sailor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jan 09 at 4:55pm

West wales, I'm not really in it to win it as it were, being in wales traveling to race events would be tricky.

I'd turn up to some training sails and maybe to some races if you do like a lets go have a fun race where no one cares type of thing but in general its for when I cant sail the 29er.

So its a boat for me to improve my sailing skill and scare myself silly, I don't mind capsizing ts all I ever do in the 29er so i'm used to severe dunking

I'd also do some informal handicap racing at local club events but I tend to go down just for the fun of it all, the handicap fleet is a mixed bunch of lasers and feva and i think a 420 hangs around sometimes but no one takes the sailing seriously after the toppers

The real race winners are usually the ones that wear the daftest thing, have the best capsize or scream the loudest on a suicidal reach

I'm quite competative so when I do get to grips with it I'd try a few races on the circuit or gate crash more handicap events.

 

How hard can it be!!!!  (famous last words)

I have looked at the streaker (rooster epoxy one) and it looks a nice tidy boat but its still based on an old boat, Dont get me wrong I like it but I'd like something "new age"

I mean RS300 "Carbon fiber mast with gust responce" Vs the plasic ironing bord laser, hard one to chose

Just looking for a drag racer to get the heart going really but even the folks at LDC are saying are you sure

(If i do get a 300 and dont post within a few weeks come looking for me)

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Post Options Post Options   Quote GBR884 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jan 09 at 5:32pm

Trust me on this.... Dont knock the streaker until you have tried it......i was doing a handicap week earlier in a 400 (the river was too narrow for the 600) and in one of the races i borrowed one of the new boats....to cut a long story short it was fantastic!! It was suprisingly fast and suprisingly a lot of fun.

If i was in your situation i would have a very very hard time choosing between the streaker and the 300. At least give one a go because at your weight (and mine) it was a great boat to sail.

I would highly recommend them

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It is probably "easier" to hike well (near straight leg hiking) in the Laser than a 300.

You would be far more overpowered in a RS300 than you would be in a Radial and it is hard to learn when you are very overpowered!

I think the streaker is a fantastic little boat. I raced against them at the Grafham Grand Prix and they were pretty much as quick as the Radial and perhaps faster in the light stuff!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote feva sailor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jan 09 at 5:55pm

One good thing about the streaker is its less money new (and its a bit of a bandit I hear)

 

It's a shame that LDC don't allow the 300 onto their test sail list.
Claim the reason is that you cant get a feel of it in one session which is fair enough but it would at least give me an idea if I'd ever get used to it

I'm looking at the streaker ans seems a zippy enough boat but is it really much of a challenge, I'd like to have a learning curve and I'm sure id get one in a streaker returning to the single handed world after 14 months in a RS feva and a few weeks in the 29er crewing but is it a boat where I'd just jump in and sail it quite nicely with no major hiccups or does it have the challenge and the ability to keep me on my toes.

being 3kg under the recommended weight it's not a boat i could fall asleep in but how does it match up to a 300

(the flat cut dracon will probably be easier to depower and manage)

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Would LDC take the RS feva back as a part-ex for a 300?

 

I'd ask LDC but their away at the show so if anyone happens to know then enlighten me.
Unlikely but so is someone buying a feva in the current money issues

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