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    Posted: 11 Dec 08 at 6:53am

 

Grumpf that website you linked is funny, its the reasons i dont golf!!!  Like the cheaky git oon the end though!! look at his hand!!

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But surely it's just a practical demonstration on how to hold a golf club? Next lesson how to swing it..........
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Originally posted by G.R.F.

Edit; I've just noticed, he plays golf,

When you get to golf, which I hear won't be long now... do you think you'll give Tiger Woods a good run for his money ...?

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When I go sailing, I expect neither to win or lose.  If it's an open meeting sometimes I aim to see how many of the blokes I can beat, sometimes if it's howling I simply aim to finish all the races, and sometimes I just want to get in some decent practice.  I am very used to racing and not winning these days because I've chosen a boat which makes winning very hard for me.

It's not because I take an odd pleasure in disappointing myself, it's simply because I enjoy the means rather than always seeking out the end.

To always win with no challenges would be no pleasure at all.
the same, but different...

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Originally posted by Guest#260

Originally posted by G.R.F.

Edit; I've just noticed, he
plays golf,


When you get to golf, which I hear won't be long now... do you think
you'll give Tiger Woods a good run for his money ...?



I cut myself the other day, and I couldn't help but notice the Blood
running in my veins is still red, so that golfing day is still to come..

And Tiger Woods? Presumably some good golfing fellow (I have a picture
of his girlfriend naked if you'd like to see it)give him a run for his money?

Well I wasn't winning golf championships the year he was born like your
pal the Laser wizard, so probably not and anyway Golfs a Girls and Old
Gentlemens game why would it remotely interest me?

Play it a lot do you?
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Originally posted by G.R.F.

...anyway Golfs a Girls and Old
Gentlemens game why would it remotely interest me?

I believe you have answered you own question ...

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[QUOTE=turnturtle] Paul Goodison on a board... 'handy' springs to mind:


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Stacked springs to my mind..


And since when does freestylee short board antics qualify you as a good
racer.

He'd still be toast.

Waiting to be battered,
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Originally posted by G.R.F.




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He'd still be toast.

Waiting to be battered,


Battered toast, now that's a pretty manly breakfast if ever I'd heard one!
Needs to sail more...
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GRF has got some points that I agree with (and many that I think are wide of the mark).  Certainly windsurfing has produced some cracking sailors who have gone on to race succesfully in boats... Yves Loday, Ben Oakley, etc...  but I seem to remember quite a lot of good windsurfers back in the day having had a grounding in dinghies (Mark Woods, now back sailing in F15s at HISC) and Tushingham, Noble et al.

So it goes both ways which I think is kind of the point he was making.  But his really interesting thought is this...

"What does wind me up though is that in order to have any credibility
placed in ones opinion it is necessary to be a front runner, when in reality
the folk who create the majority of the market are us beginners to mid
fleet types, yet our views are ignored, by the charge being lead from the
front as the demand for ever increasingly unstable craft bolster other
fragile egos in the pursuit of what? "

Now I have a fragile ego which needs regular boosting and I sail a Musto, but I can't ignore the fact that as the boats have changed so has the whole sailing scene.

When I first started sailing in the 80s, on a little gravel pit in the Thames Valley, the main club fleet was the Enterprise, which would normally get between 10-20 entries for a Sunday morning race.  The crews were mainly male-female, husband-wife, father-son, and the competition was serious. The nature of the racing drew many people into the sport as the boats themselves were easy to sail badly, but to win races you had to sail them well.  It was a 'sport for all' scenario which is disappearing as the large club fleets of stable two man raicng dinghies at club level diminishes.  I think if we as a family came to dinghy sailing now we would be unlikley to get quite as absorbed as we did back then.  Racing in stable boats draws people in, and makes them want to stay.  That's why I also sail a Firefly.

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Absolutely right Dan.  And as an instructor trying to encourage the people I teach to carry on sailing after level 2, I worry that they will buy something unstable and unsuitable because that's what's marketed hardest, get defeated and give up.
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